The shortages are caused by memory manufacturers in Asia having supply chain problems, and the pending strike at Samsung, right?
Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
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Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
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Historically whenever they’ve done lower price products - iPhone SE, the current E editions, etc - they’ve sold poorly, that’s what probably got them. The thing is that the Neo is actually useful.
I disagree. I am old enough to remember the iPod nano -- Especially the 2nd generation. They were effectively low-priced and smaller iPods. Apple sold millions of these much much quicker than the iPods and iPod minis (which came right before). Especially in 2006, it was _the_ "Christmas gift" just before the iPhone, iPod touch and later iPad mini took over. Possibly Steve Jobs' demo where he showed how they fit into…
I think the outliers have burned them more recently and even Apple loses historical memory over time.
That said I remember everything you said and 100% agree - the nano killed everything around it. It’s been awhile since Apple had a similar home run; not an excuse for the clear lack of vision/leadership but a factor nonetheless.
Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
#83As I play more with Agents like Hermes and Openclaw I've come to realise these truly are the new GUI. I have Radarr and Sonarr running on my homeserver. I switched my model to cloud Claude, pasted the API docs of said apps and told it to make 'search, add, remove, update, and statusupdate' available in a small MCP. It took 7 minutes, I switched back to my local Qwen3.6 model and I haven't touched the webinterface of…
There is no GUI in anything you're saying. How is this 'the new GUI'?
Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
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Yea it does look like 5 year old M1's are going for $300 on eBay, but man that's painful a 5 year old machine for that much when you could get a new Neo or Mini for $600, if only you could buy them. I probably should just get the M1, test and sell it back on eBay. Thanks.
Neo isn't much better than M1.
M1 is even better in some ways, like it has Thunderbolt ports (plural even!).
Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
#85I guess the sudden demand is due to OpenClaw? But most people will still use cloud LLMs, right? Anything particular with the Mac Mini that non-Mac lack?
An M4 mini is overkill just to run OpenClaw. I'm running it on a Pentium J5005 and it's running 20 other services in Docker. I think the main thing was many wanted it to be able to access iMessage. I think people dream of also using the mac to run the LLM but the 16gb ones don't have enough ram.
You can run nullclaw etc on a Pi zero. People who are paying big $ are mostly trying to run local LLMs.
Personally, I would rather pay a few bucks for Qwen or just use gemma4 which runs on a potato. But I guess we are all different.
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> in stead of relaying requests through me. Overseerr is a thing.
1) You're missing the point. Overseer can do this, yes. AI model can work with ANY REST API. 2) How does Overseerr help? I've never really understood it if I could give my family access to Overseerr over a VPN I could just give them sonarr / radarr directly.
Expose Overseerr over HTTPS either from your home network or on a free VPS which has the tunnel into the home network where Radarr and Sonarr live. This is simpler for users to go to a website instead of having to also use a VPN.
This of course assumes you already have Plex or Jellyfin exposed to the public internet without a VPN.
If you're already forcing users to use a VPN for Plex/Jellyfin then hosting Overseerr locally and making it accessible over the VPN should be trivial.
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Not just OpenClaw. The Mac mini is just stupidly good value for a desktop computer, and the RAM prices have only enhanced its appeal. Apple doesn't make much of a fuss about it but their chip performance is laughably ahead of the other chipmakers. The Mac Mini M4 gets a score of 3788 in Geekbench[0]. The top of the PC processor chart is 3395[1]. It's not even Apple's latest chip! PC processors can only keep up by add…
Geekbench is basically trash. People keep using it for comparing Mac performance because many of the things people usually benchmark don't run on Macs. But single-number outputs like that are useless. Is the number ~10% higher because it's consistently ~10% faster at everything, or because it's 100% faster on a minority of things and slower at everything else? The first one is pretty unlikely when comparing processor…
How are we supposed to trust these charts when it can't even be bothered to specify which Apple Silicon chip it's testing? The Mac Mini comes in two versions.
Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yea it does look like 5 year old M1's are going for $300 on eBay, but man that's painful a 5 year old machine for that much when you could get a new Neo or Mini for $600, if only you could buy them. I probably should just get the M1, test and sell it back on eBay. Thanks.
Neo isn't much better than M1.
In my personal experience, 13” M1 MacBook Air, 15” M4 Macbook Air, M4 Pro Mac Mini, and MacBook Neo, the Neo is the fastest for single threaded and strictly CPU bound tasks. E.g. calculating 200x200, 1000 max iterations Mandelbrot fractals it does ~785 in ten seconds compared to ~760 on the M4s and somewhere in the 600s for the M1.
Given its RAM size I’m not going to be spinning up VMs, but in terms of general purpose computing it’s more than adequate. And, out of the box, you get a word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, video editing, digital audio, web browser, and a bunch of other things. Xcode is free. This is easily a laptop you can buy and use for years in 90% of settings.
Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
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If you remove the Mac filter, its performance is not even in the top ten Which is obvious if you spent more then half a microsecond thinking about it, because apple silicone barely draws any power - it's performance is fantastic in it's niche, which is squarely within what a home user cares about - but it's not leading on benchmark performance, because that's not what apple designed it for The reason its coincidental…
Which top 10 are you talking about? If you mean the top absolute geekbench scores, those are always with the assistance of cryogenic cooling.
Sure, the top ten may be using highly advanced cooling.
And the fact that's possible should've already proven that Apple's decided on trade-offs that did not enable bleeding Edge performance, hence not going to top benchmarks.
But aside from that amount of transfer ability you should've been able to manage, you're ignoring that apple silicone is still being beat on all performance benchmarks even with stock settings.
Apple chose a performance profile for their chips, and it's not "highest performance while sacrificing cooling and energy usage". Others did. And apple did well not chasing benchmarks, as that'd be the epitome of idiocity for their target market. They're not targeting high performance servers with massive cooling setups. They're targeting mobile workstation and entertainment devices.
They do not have any need for bleeding Edge performance trade-offs. They need power efficiency and enough performance to feel snappy on all workloads people will run on these devices - which isn't benchmarks. because none of their users _need_ highly sustained processing power. its just not something they'd ever target.
and im not even adressing the fact that geekbench is notorius for being absolutely shit at showing actual processing power.
Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months
#90As I play more with Agents like Hermes and Openclaw I've come to realise these truly are the new GUI. I have Radarr and Sonarr running on my homeserver. I switched my model to cloud Claude, pasted the API docs of said apps and told it to make 'search, add, remove, update, and statusupdate' available in a small MCP. It took 7 minutes, I switched back to my local Qwen3.6 model and I haven't touched the webinterface of…
There is no GUI in anything you're saying. How is this 'the new GUI'?
I have a similar set up. I communicate/chat with the Hermes agent via Matrix chat client.
So rather than having to go to a bunch of different websites or apps to get things done, I've linked them all to Hermes (via skills) and chat with the Hermes agent on my phone.
I want a movie? I just say download XYZ. Shows up in Plex 5 min later.
I want to research something with multiple different perspectives? Rather than going to OpenWebUI and using that, I just asked a Hermes agent to examine an issue from multiple different viewpoints and get back to me with a conclusion.