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Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by Hendrikto »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #57
Frieren wrote: post #36

As financial markets get tighter AI companies will stop subsidizing their services and charge enough money to actually make a profit. It is time to setup local models. It is cheaper, and you already have a computer. Why keep it idle and pay someone else for their CPU?

> As financial markets get tighter ... They never really get tight very long: the various states are way too busy flooding the world with endless money printing to kick the can of the public debt always further. Covid financial crash? We went to new highs. 2022 tech flash crash (Meta and Netflix did -75% for example): we then went to new highs. The only way for governments who ever spend way more than they bring in t…

As you said yourself: Quantitative easing did not solve anything. We keep kicking the can down the road, and the problems grow exponentially every time. This approach won’t work forever. In fact, we may be past the tipping point already.

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by cultofmetatron »

tempaccount5050 wrote: post #44
Frieren wrote: post #36

As financial markets get tighter AI companies will stop subsidizing their services and charge enough money to actually make a profit. It is time to setup local models. It is cheaper, and you already have a computer. Why keep it idle and pay someone else for their CPU?

Because it doesn't even come close to frontier models in intelligence/speed/price. I can run my 3090 nonstop and rack up an electricity bill that costs more than a subscription and get worse results that are slower. They are ok for simple/non complex things, but that's not really what I need AI for.

if only there was a place that was naturally cold to take advantage of airflow for cooling and cheap renewable electricity thats always on...

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by isoprophlex »

nimbius wrote: post #68
PunchyHamster wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes both nines are even in the front!

Cursed by mighty Redmond to roam the market wasteland until death, one of the seventy some odd beleaguered CoPilot products is now being lashed like a haggard burro to the dying light of a once prominent development platform that, upon itself, were pinned the hopes and dreams of a commercial software juggernaut to capture the hearts and minds of developers all around the world.

DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by isoprophlex »

Laughsalot wrote: post #76
2ndorderthought wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do we assume us providers aren't doing the same? Also all the Chinese providers are giving open weight models. Many you can run locally. I don't see the risk. If your code is easily AI generated you don't have a moat anyways. A Chinese competitor probably won't have as easy of a time as a US one of you operate in the US

The US has robust IP and trademark law that allows companies some amount of chance to find a legal remedy to anyone who clones their business. China is notorious for protecting local companies from foreign IP suits. Further, at a lot of companies, the risk has to be acceptable to shareholders and auditors. Perceived risk is often a more powerful motivator than actual risk.

> robust IP and trademark law

lmao tell that to the artists, authors and foss contributors whose work has been cloned into the llm oracle

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by isoprophlex »

aleksiy123 wrote: post #77
Atotalnoob wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your best bet is to self host woodpecker CI. Hetzner has cheap VPS that I host my CI on. It costs like $10/month. Pick the cheapest region, since CI runners location doesn’t matter much.

Yeah, I did hertzner runner for a bit. But I think the issue is that my situation (solo dev, mono repo) is just not right for a dedicated instance. With only 1-2 runners, the pipeline is slow (low parallelism) and resource constrained. And at least 50% of the time its idle (I'm not working/sleeping). I guess what I'm really looking for is for some kind of aggressive autoscaling, and aggressive caching. I tried a coup…

Ephemeral, beefy fly.io instances?

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

Laughsalot wrote: post #76
2ndorderthought wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do we assume us providers aren't doing the same? Also all the Chinese providers are giving open weight models. Many you can run locally. I don't see the risk. If your code is easily AI generated you don't have a moat anyways. A Chinese competitor probably won't have as easy of a time as a US one of you operate in the US

The US has robust IP and trademark law that allows companies some amount of chance to find a legal remedy to anyone who clones their business. China is notorious for protecting local companies from foreign IP suits. Further, at a lot of companies, the risk has to be acceptable to shareholders and auditors. Perceived risk is often a more powerful motivator than actual risk.

Once your code, images, etc pass into the slop machine it is owned by whoever generated it later. Obviously they would need a new logo, llc, and some ui theme tweaks. Otherwise none of these AI coder products would exist.

Also, how long do you think openai, Microsoft, Google, anthropic, etc could delay a lawsuit while you pay hundreds of thousands in legal retainers? 5 years? 10?

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by alemanek »

aleksiy123 wrote: post #77
Atotalnoob wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your best bet is to self host woodpecker CI. Hetzner has cheap VPS that I host my CI on. It costs like $10/month. Pick the cheapest region, since CI runners location doesn’t matter much.

Yeah, I did hertzner runner for a bit. But I think the issue is that my situation (solo dev, mono repo) is just not right for a dedicated instance. With only 1-2 runners, the pipeline is slow (low parallelism) and resource constrained. And at least 50% of the time its idle (I'm not working/sleeping). I guess what I'm really looking for is for some kind of aggressive autoscaling, and aggressive caching. I tried a coup…

Not sure of what current prices look like but an old desktop sitting on the floor of your office might work well for you. You would need decent internet but running a single node kubernetes cluster as a GitHub action runner has worked well for others I know.

A buddy of mine runs his whole CICD setup off an old gaming desktop. They use tailscale to connect to their hosted infrastructure and set it up as a GitHub action runner.

For a solo dev this might be the way to go.

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by nickjj »

They should also remove Copilot code reviews from being counted as metrics in a PR.

I've seen some projects that use it and you open the PR page to be greeted by every PR having 3-20 comments but when you goto the actual PR, there's no one except the contributor with a bunch of Copilot feedback.

It gives a false message that the PR is resonating with folks and has real activity. I wonder if GitHub did this on purpose to make engagement seem higher than it really is.

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by anthonypasq »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #7
dotdi wrote: post #4

I feel the rug under my feet moving. Is it being pulled?!

Just you wait, this is a gentle tug to test how hard they can pull when the time comes.

making you pay the actual price of a product is a rug pull now?

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Post by ihattendorf »

Hendrikto wrote: post #79
tempaccount5050 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it doesn't even come close to frontier models in intelligence/speed/price. I can run my 3090 nonstop and rack up an electricity bill that costs more than a subscription and get worse results that are slower. They are ok for simple/non complex things, but that's not really what I need AI for.

Well, it is currently cheaper because it is massively subsidized. That will change when subsidies stop. I don’t think it is a good argument.

The claim was "It is cheaper", not "It will be cheaper". Until it actually _is_ cheaper, it doesn't make much sense to purchase $10k+ in hardware to run local models that are still worse than the frontier offerings.
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