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Re: GitHub is having issues now

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This is not to say that things haven't gotten worse over time, but... I don't think that chart shows what it seems like it shows. There were plenty of pre-2018 outages that don't show up there: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1545696000&dateRange=custom&... An alternate interpretation of that chart is "After the microsoft acquisition, they got serious about actually tracking outages." That said, anecdotally, it's fel…

Well, perhaps not as long ago (e. g. from the acquisition), but if you look at the last four weeks or so, just that part alone, you can clearly see that something is not working here. Microsoft is constantly mentioned on Hacker News and not typically in a great, praising light.

If it’s just the last 4 weeks, then I would say it seems the Microsoft acquisition had little impact on their reliability.

It seems pretty reasonable that the massive surge in AI over the past 6 months has put tremendous strain on GitHub’s infrastructure, and most of these outages are as a result of that one way or another.

Re: GitHub is having issues now

#83
post #9

Yeah I think I've finally had enough. I need to start seriously advocating for alternatives since this is starting to impact our business. It's clearly not getting any better.

Go ahead. We've been self-hosting Gitea with Drone/Woodpecker for years; either it or Forgejo will do fine if you're okay with their feature set. I sometimes wander into these GitHub threads to have a laugh; our Gitea instance has had several minutes of downtime combined over the last few years, all of them planned (to upgrade Gitea) and in the middle of the night.

I struggled with Woodpecker for a bit, but now gitea has Actions that work wonderfully for my use case (and one less tool to support). I believe they also highlight compatibility with a github action protocol of sorts. Might be worth looking into.

Re: GitHub is having issues now

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post #11

Github has been having issues since the Microsoft acquisition. https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/

This is not to say that things haven't gotten worse over time, but... I don't think that chart shows what it seems like it shows. There were plenty of pre-2018 outages that don't show up there: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1545696000&dateRange=custom&... An alternate interpretation of that chart is "After the microsoft acquisition, they got serious about actually tracking outages." That said, anecdotally, it's fel…

They're moving to Azure and had to fix up Azure first to be stable enough for GH to even consider moving.

I'm guessing its a combo of Azure still not being stable enough and a byproduct of trying to move an entire company's operations from a physical DC into a cloud while its running.

Re: GitHub is having issues now

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post #11

Github has been having issues since the Microsoft acquisition. https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/

You know what else changed around this time?

They dropped Ruby on Rails.

Ruby on rails got a bad rap IMO.

It was maybe the epitome of the get shit done internet era, and despite AI's proported productivity gains, I actually don't think we've got anywhere close to the velocity, stability, and simplicity of the peak Rails era just coming out of those PHP days. And teams were actually way smaller than they are now even after all these AI cuts!

Re: GitHub is having issues now

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post #11

Github has been having issues since the Microsoft acquisition. https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/

This is not to say that things haven't gotten worse over time, but... I don't think that chart shows what it seems like it shows. There were plenty of pre-2018 outages that don't show up there: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1545696000&dateRange=custom&... An alternate interpretation of that chart is "After the microsoft acquisition, they got serious about actually tracking outages." That said, anecdotally, it's fel…

I think it is probably a combination of:

- Switching to Azure

- Adding more AI features

- Using AI more for development

- Higher load caused by AI agents

Three of those are top-down direction from MS.

Re: GitHub is having issues now

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post #74

Every time Github goes down, a few more people move to ethical alternatives and reduce the FOSS community having a SPOF in Microsoft. https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/

While I appreciate the sentiment... there was something nice about the social aspects of many/most projects being on GitHub in terms of collaboration. I think there is starting to be a lot of friction for many reasons. I've been seeing more use of issues as spam, not to mention even more nefarious activities making rounds.

Re: GitHub is having issues now

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post #9

Yeah I think I've finally had enough. I need to start seriously advocating for alternatives since this is starting to impact our business. It's clearly not getting any better.

I'm surprised GitLab isn't getting more attention. Yes, its not a carbon copy, but it is close. Apples and pears instead of oranges.

It's close in the sense that it's also Jabbascript SPA crap that needs a supercomputer just to (try and fail to) display a diff of a few thousands lines, you mean? We're using it at work and it sucks massively.
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