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The State of Windows 8

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Re: The State of Windows 8

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Post by ralfn »

Ramonaxvh wrote: post #40
account_taken wrote: post #13

I find it really hard to believe average crashes is 7.1/month on Windows 7. I run Windows 24/7. It's never crashed. I have an overclocked 4.5Ghz i5 and have many VMware sessions running. Maybe it's because I have quality hardware? Same experience with OS X. Both are rock solid.

I've been running Windows 8 over a year, the only time I had "crashes" when was my SSD was going out. Can hardly blame that on the OS. Windows Server 2012 is a whole other story for me though.

I dont think its about blame. It is about how people experience the ecosystem as a whole. The average windows computer may consist of hardware and software from tens of different vendors, but for the end user something eiher works or it does not.

Re: The State of Windows 8

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Post by illuminate »

roee wrote: post #67
illuminate wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The people surrounding you may be taking better care of their machines then the average." Selection bias works both ways, people who install such "utility" software may be taking worse care of their systems and installing more bloatware.

Just to clarify, the vast majority of our audience currently arrives through sites like LifeHacker, MakeUseOf and HowToGeek. "Bloatware" is uncalled for in this case, it usually refers to shit that's trying to make money of you without providing value. Please read my full comment that includes our bias analysis: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4793863

Will do! For the record, I was referring to the sort of user who installs "tuning" software in general, I was not referring to your product specifically. No insult was intended.

Re: The State of Windows 8

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Post by aluhut »

boyter wrote: post #48
aluhut wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not XP (my private licence) but I have Ubuntu running parallel for my private stuff. Never had any problems with it.

Going to go on a hunch and suggest its a dodgy driver then, or some piece of hardware windows is picking up that Ubuntu isn't. Its annoying that bad drivers still crash windows but the same thing happens on Linux systems.

That would explain the crash but why is it so horrible slow?

I don't feel the speed difference between an Ubuntu/XP is as big as in between Ubuntu/win7 (talking about the old-desktop here).

Re: The State of Windows 8

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Post by JimmaDaRustla »

ygra wrote: post #79
JimmaDaRustla wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just saying, a fresh install is a "healthy" install. I don't know anyone who gets a new PC and says "Boy, you know what this brand new machine needs? Some system maintenance software."

You never bought a computer with Windows already installed, did you? :)

Haha! I see your point!

Actually, my Dell came with minimal bloat.

Re: The State of Windows 8

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Post by boyter »

aluhut wrote: post #83
boyter wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going to go on a hunch and suggest its a dodgy driver then, or some piece of hardware windows is picking up that Ubuntu isn't. Its annoying that bad drivers still crash windows but the same thing happens on Linux systems.

That would explain the crash but why is it so horrible slow? I don't feel the speed difference between an Ubuntu/XP is as big as in between Ubuntu/win7 (talking about the old-desktop here).

Going to go with drivers again. The sad truth is closed source drivers can be as hit or miss as open source. By any measure I have tried, Windows 7 is considerably faster then XP for the gear I run, but only when proper drivers are installed (not the included Windows 7 ones).

It is annoying when you get something that's slower or doesn't work though. I was burnt by Creative with my Live! Drive and as such will never buy their hardware or software again, but I don't blame Microsoft.

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