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Interview with Bob Odenkirk

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Re: Interview with Bob Odenkirk

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Post by Fricken »

saberience wrote: post #27
dang wrote: post #144

[stub for offtopicness] [article authors don't write these headlines, you guys - let alone interview subjects]

This is the kind of thought that only rich and successful people can have. If you're working every day in a coal mine so you can feed your children otherwise they will go hungry, then you don't have these kind of thoughts. Similarly, if you're fighting in a war so your family isn't raped or murdered then you don't have these kind of thoughts either. Basically, you're lucky if you live in a situation that gives you th…

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing

-William Shakespeare

Re: Interview with Bob Odenkirk

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Post by hyperhello »

toxik wrote: post #79
tranceylc wrote: post #62

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I can’t be the only one who finds it rude to use AI to contribute to a discussion. I find invasive I had to read what I thought was human. Using it for translation would be different though.

So very rude. If you prefix it with "the LLM says", I'm fine with it. But taking that hot air and pretending it's yours? It's not just rude, it's dishonest.

It’s not just X, it’s Y. It’s not rude, it’s hackneyed use of language.

Re: Interview with Bob Odenkirk

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Post by davexunit »

alexose wrote: post #13

I liked the shoutout to On Cinema at the Cinema. Truly one of the most hilarious and fascinating pieces of comedy in the last couple of decades.

It's my favorite comedy of all time. It's been going for over 10 years with a lot of little spin offs along the way. For those that want to take the plunge you can watch the first first ten seasons, Oscar specials, Decker, etc. for free on YouTube. Use this playlist to watch everything in chronological order.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qFHLfmoLchI&list=PLRT5PdjVF-ip...

Re: Interview with Bob Odenkirk

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Post by dijksterhuis »

danparsonson wrote: post #64
Phemist wrote: post #45

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A triple "It's not this... it's that"...

The robots use it a lot because it's a common construct in their training data, because it's a common construct in text written by humans

i’ve caught myself doing the “it’s this and that — it’s not the other” thing a few times. i dunno if it’s because i’ve seen it so many times because of AI generated comments etc and that’s become a norm in my brain, or if it was actually something i do regularly and ive just never noticed it.

it might be the latter, because i always got the title of this paper https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.02175 backwards. i used to write it adversarial examples are features, not bugs (which is apparently not correct in english language 0_o)

regardless, ive started editing it out when i notice ive done it now.

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Post by newsclues »

julienmarie wrote: post #36
bradhe wrote: post #18

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When you're successful and rich (enough, at least), this is a nice whimsical thing to say. When you're suffering in the trenches, this isn't very helpful.

On the contrary, read the piece. He's not saying it from comfort, he's saying it after a heart attack, after his kids grew up, after the form he loved became a young man's game. The farce isn't a punchline delivered from above; it's what's left when the registers that used to hold you don't anymore. And his answer isn't despair, it's "we've got to keep trying… there's a breeze beneath my wings." That's not whimsy. Th…

I find it rather hopeless that people can "survive the trenches" and tell others" that life is meaningless.

The perspective that affords that life is cruel to some and kind to others, and it's just random and meaningless really doesn't sit well with the people who have to struggle to survive without the chance for joy in life.

If I am just going to suffer endlessly while others enjoy a life of luxury, why not burn the whole thing down? There is a disturbing goal for some people who want equality, and that is universal suffering and misery...

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Post by saberience »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #76
saberience wrote: post #27

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This is the kind of thought that only rich and successful people can have. If you're working every day in a coal mine so you can feed your children otherwise they will go hungry, then you don't have these kind of thoughts. Similarly, if you're fighting in a war so your family isn't raped or murdered then you don't have these kind of thoughts either. Basically, you're lucky if you live in a situation that gives you th…

> How many people who were living in the 1700s do you think sat around thinking life is a farce? The name for this view of the universe is "absurdism". It was first espoused, as far as I can tell, when the discourse of Qohelet was recorded in the book of Ecclesiastes. So yes, they had it in the 1700's although perhaps not by that name. > If you're working every day in a coal mine so you can feed your children otherwi…

Note, I didn't say "no people" thought this way. Just that very, very few people thought this way, which is absolutely accurate.

Unless you thought most people in the 1700s were sat around smoking cigarettes in cafes discussing the absurdism of life?

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Post by detourdog »

saberience wrote: post #69
3s wrote: post #66

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> I think if Bob Odenkirk lived on a community farm where everyone had to work together to survive he would be far happier and think life is far more meaningful. So you think everyone was happier in the USSR? /s

So you think everyone in the USSR lived on a community farm? I guess you don't really understand the USSR then...

Probably a better question would be ask the Amish how happy they are? G-D was conceived to fill this gap in the human experience. The Amish harness it to set limits on desire.
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