Presumably the government and HIPAA carveouts are for legal obligations. Trade secret theft is illegal so I wonder why they're not considering this.
Because nobody will prosecute them for violations
Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
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Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Beautiful on paper. But it does not scale outside a certain type of tech people.
What’s the scaling bottleneck? If you made a local-first, P2P version of Figma what would break first? For a company of like 50 people, I doubt you’d have more than 100GB of data so it should fit on everyone’s computers. The P2P syncing part seems solvable, even if you need a centralized handshake server somewhere. And from the user perspective I don’t see why the UX couldn’t be identical, so it’s all the same to the…
> If you made a local-first, P2P version of Figma what would break first?
The guy who has to keep it running day by day, next to the other 30 local-first systems.
Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s the scaling bottleneck? If you made a local-first, P2P version of Figma what would break first? For a company of like 50 people, I doubt you’d have more than 100GB of data so it should fit on everyone’s computers. The P2P syncing part seems solvable, even if you need a centralized handshake server somewhere. And from the user perspective I don’t see why the UX couldn’t be identical, so it’s all the same to the…
> If you made a local-first, P2P version of Figma what would break first? The guy who has to keep it running day by day, next to the other 30 local-first systems.
What is there to run? There are millions of apps that don’t require maintenance, this was the default before SaaS.
Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
#85I really wish I could find a better source to link to for this. By default, all free and paid customers are being opted-in to their data being used for AI training. All your Confluence pages, Jira tickets, etc. https://support.atlassian.com/security-and-access-policies/d... describes how to disable this, but it also appears that the setting to disable this doesn't exist (it's not visible on any of our instances).
"In-app data covers user-generated content: page titles and bodies in Confluence, Jira issue titles, descriptions, comments, custom emoji names, custom status names, and workflow names" ... damn!!
Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
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#87Atlassian just goes from misstep to misstep. I still use their products quite often. The amount of P0 bugs I experience is absolutely crazy: - Bitbucket workers are hopelessly out of date (self hosted). We've had to put so many random workarounds in especially for Docker, as they don't keep them up to date enough - I have had a bug in JIRA for years where I can't reorder a new ticket unless I refresh the page - Every…
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#88If the rumours of an Anthropic acquisition are true, this makes a lot of sense. Anthropic are probably looking for a clean, high-signal dataset of metadata around business tasks that they can buy.
Sounds very questionable, like boiler room is trying to do a pump n dump. I would not believe these rumors until we hear reputable sources outside of forum speculation
Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
#89Atlassian just goes from misstep to misstep. I still use their products quite often. The amount of P0 bugs I experience is absolutely crazy: - Bitbucket workers are hopelessly out of date (self hosted). We've had to put so many random workarounds in especially for Docker, as they don't keep them up to date enough - I have had a bug in JIRA for years where I can't reorder a new ticket unless I refresh the page - Every…
Jira has vim-like bindings for navigating tickets on boards and years later the feature barely works. It has bugs like pressing the j/k keys changes the URL and random fields but stays on the same ticket or doesn't render the newly navigated-to ticket, etc.
Re: Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
#90Atlassian just goes from misstep to misstep. I still use their products quite often. The amount of P0 bugs I experience is absolutely crazy: - Bitbucket workers are hopelessly out of date (self hosted). We've had to put so many random workarounds in especially for Docker, as they don't keep them up to date enough - I have had a bug in JIRA for years where I can't reorder a new ticket unless I refresh the page - Every…
Jira is buggy as hell these days. Lots of desyncing that forces me to refresh the page. I can have a ticket open on a sprint board and the modal spontaneously closes after a while, forcing me to reopen it frequently. The other week there were tickets that simply refused to show up in their respective sprint board no matter what I did; later the epic magically appeared on the board out of nowhere, then finally the ind…
Atlassian also shutdown their self-hosted offerings. I'm not sure which version they were on with their datacenter edition, when that got cancelled. Part of it might also simply be a lax approach to QA, now that they don't have to support thousands of installations in on-prem environments. When you can just push out an update, your QA has to be much much better.