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Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by zozbot234 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #56
HWR_14 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whats "reasonable hardware"?

People have tried to run Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 on 4x $600 used, Nvidia 3090s with 24 GB of VRAM each (96 GB total), and while it runs, it is too slow for production grade ( You can quantize it of course, but if the idea is "as close to Sonnet as possible," then while quantized models are objectively more efficient they are sacrificing precision for it. So next step is to up that speed, so we're at 4x $1300, N…

> The hardware to actually run them is the bottleneck, and it is a HUGE financial/practical bottleneck.

That's unsurprising, seeing as inference for agentic coding is extremely context- and token-intensive compared to general chat. Especially if you want it to be fast enough for a real-time response, as opposed to just running coding tasks overnight in a batch and checking the results as they arrive. Maybe we should go back to viewing "coding" as a batch task, where you submit a "job" to be queued for the big iron and wait for the results.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by pixxel »

llm_nerd wrote: post #80
nozzlegear wrote: post #79

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Call it whatever you want then, I'm still interested in the question at hand – your son makes more money than you do professionally, using Claude Code to make something video game related?

He makes solutions for people and they pay him money for doing so. I mean...pretty much exactly how we all operate? He's excellent at networking and has built an enormous connection tree.

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Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by LoganDark »

8cvor6j844qw_d6 wrote: post #45
LoganDark wrote: post #35

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They request ID for bans so that they can ban you personally. ID checks may as well be a sign that you've already been banned and they're fishing for ways to make the ban harder to evade. Venmo does the same thing.

> ID checks may as well be a sign that you've already been banned and they're fishing for ways to make the ban harder to evade. So identity verification is basically a canary that your account is about to get banned, or is on the chopping block. At that point you're better off abandoning ship rather than handing over your ID.

Basically exactly my point. If you could use the service without ID verification, and others can still use the service without ID verification, but you've been blocked because you haven't handed over your ID, then leave or start a new account. That is if you're averse to being banned personally. If you don't mind the risk then you can verify ID and prepare to jump ship if it's a ban.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by LoganDark »

pixl97 wrote: post #72
LoganDark wrote: post #30

Persona is bad news. They should not be using Persona. This is bad. > Your ID and selfie are collected and held by Persona, not on Anthropic's systems. Anthropic can access verification records through Persona's platform when needed—for example, to review an appeal—but we don't copy or store those images ourselves. It's unacceptable that this data is persisted at all , let alone that it's persisted by Persona . > Per…

It sounds like if Anthro suddenly asks for verification you should immediately delete your account.

Unfortunately usually whenever an account enters an unverified state it becomes impossible to delete because whatever company usually wants to have a record that you refused to complete the verification.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by anonym29 »

Had been a happy Claude Pro subscriber since March 2025, and a happy Claude Max subscriber since May 2025. Cancelled my sub, will be deleting my account. This is disgusting coming from the same org that pretended to push back on the Pentagon over mass surveillance concerns. Complete hypocrites. Nemotron 3 Super, Qwen 3.5 122B A10B, and Minimax M2.7 running on my local hardware are more than sufficient for my needs. I'll miss newer Opus models - probably will end up trying them out a little via third party API platforms that don't abuse their users like this, but seriously, fuck Anthropic.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by nozzlegear »

llm_nerd wrote: post #80
nozzlegear wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call it whatever you want then, I'm still interested in the question at hand – your son makes more money than you do professionally, using Claude Code to make something video game related?

He makes solutions for people and they pay him money for doing so. I mean...pretty much exactly how we all operate? He's excellent at networking and has built an enormous connection tree.

That's interesting, good for him! When I was a teenager I spent all my time playing Halo 2, I didn't write my first line of code until my early 20s.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by alistairmayo »

a2128 wrote: post #37
daliusd wrote: post #15

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I can guess at least one valid: * preventing North Korea, China, Russian, Iran and etc. actors from accessing service. They absolutely use workarounds to access AI, e.g. I bet there are companies who are proxy between Anthropic and those countries. I imagine there will be quite some false positives while identifying those.

This will do absolutely nothing to prevent those actors from accessing Claude... they already recruit young unemployed Americans to do proxy job interviews[0][1], etc. They'll just pay young unemployed Americans to do verification for them. [0] https://www.tradingview.com/news/cointelegraph:6192f38e3094b... [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=QebpXFM1ha0

They won't even need to do that. With enough time and money, they can certainly figure out how to not trigger the ID verification system.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by alistairmayo »

llm_nerd wrote: post #21
dinoqqq wrote: post #6

It's worrying that they don't specify in which cases they require identity checks.

Just a few days ago, on Friday, my 15 year old son had his Claude account suspended with a demand for ID to prove he is 18 or older. He had his own Claude Max subscription (he out-earns me fairly frequently in his circle of gaming programmers), and was unaware Anthropic had a must-be-18 rule, as was I. Their email said "Our team found signals that your account was used by a child. This breaks our rules, so we paused…

Yeah. I do not get the 18-years-old age gate. It's not like they're protecting anyone. AI is available so freely now anyone who wants it can get it.

Anthropic made the best models by hiring non-technical folks like philosophers to build the best training sets and evaluations. Now, it seems like their philosophers are telling people how they can and can't use their model.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by a2128 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #60
a2128 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will do absolutely nothing to prevent those actors from accessing Claude... they already recruit young unemployed Americans to do proxy job interviews[0][1], etc. They'll just pay young unemployed Americans to do verification for them. [0] https://www.tradingview.com/news/cointelegraph:6192f38e3094b... [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=QebpXFM1ha0

That sounds likely to increase their costs and create new opportunities to get caught. Not a silver bullet but not "absolutely nothing". Like how anti-money laundering laws don't wipe out all crime, but are still worthwhile.

If the API costs are gonna be thousands, or the subscription will be $20/month, is it really that expensive to pay some guy on Discord a $50 gift card to verify the account as a one-time setup? Better yet, we'll probably start seeing fake porn websites and other phishing sites that ask to verify your age but end up proxy verifying a bunch of these services in an automated manner with minimal costs, and you'll be able to buy verified Claude accounts for tens of cents on account marketplaces. Just as you have been able to buy verified Discord accounts, aged Steam accounts, etc...

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Post by progbits »

llm_nerd wrote: post #21
dinoqqq wrote: post #6

It's worrying that they don't specify in which cases they require identity checks.

Just a few days ago, on Friday, my 15 year old son had his Claude account suspended with a demand for ID to prove he is 18 or older. He had his own Claude Max subscription (he out-earns me fairly frequently in his circle of gaming programmers), and was unaware Anthropic had a must-be-18 rule, as was I. Their email said "Our team found signals that your account was used by a child. This breaks our rules, so we paused…

> Anthropic gave him a refund for the whole month that was underway, despite him being nearing the end of it

I sense an opportunity for free tokens.

Ideas for prompts that reliably trigger the age check?

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