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An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

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Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#81
I think it is wonderful.

It's reminiscent of the 90s, where every middle manager had dragged and dropped some boxes on some forms, and could get a salesman to sell it, without a care in the world for what was going on behind the scenes.

Until something crashed and recovery was needed, of course.

The piper always needs to be paid.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah keeping it vague makes sense to protect the place if it's still online but the whole thing doesn't really make sense? The timelines mentioned are weird - he spoke to them before they built it? Or after? It's not that clear, he mentions they mentioned watching a video. > The entire application was a single HTML file with all JavaScript, CSS, and structure written inline. This is not my experience of how agents te…

I don't think you read the article very carefully, the timeline is that he met a person, and that person told him that they made vibe-coded an app after having seen a video. He then investigated the app.

Yeah because every medical practice I go to, I'm always able to investigate all of their systems.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#84
post #55

I did something similar to a local company here in Spain. Not medical, but a small insurance company. Believe it or not, yes, they vibecoded their CRM. I sent them an email and they threatened to sue me. I was a bit in shock from such dumb response, but I guess some people only learn the hard way, so I filed a report to the AEPD (Data protection agency in Spain) for starters, known to be brutal. I've also sent them a…

> AEPD […] known to be brutal. Nice. I wish more countries had something like that. Many of these organizations are lethargic and have to be forced into action by civilian efforts or the press.

AEPD are well known, even in the rest of the world. They have a different strategy compared to other countries. Ireland's DPC are also heavy handed, but focus on large companies mostly.

France's CNIL is also not bad. They are particularly hard against things like "you accidentally sign up for x y z services when only wanting to sign up to service A".

Gdpr in the EU is also miles ahead of what the US has, or at least what it has been enforcing for a long time.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#85
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

fwiw i know tobias and its very very unlikely he made this up. my guess its intentionally vague to not leak any information about the culprit which i guess is fair.

Okay. If it's real I apologize. But in any case it's so lacking in detail and so brief as to make it so uninteresting that it might as well be fake. > Somebody "vibecodes" medical app/system. The app was insecure. Personal info leaked. Okay cool.

Is really weird to me that this is your reception.

It's a rarely updated personal blog, not a daily tabloid story.

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#86
post #3

Do you think if the agency hired a consultant to build this , a consultant couldn’t have made the same mistakes? Lack of security theater is a good thing for most businesses

If a consultant made the same mistakes I'd expect the consultant to be held accountable, not the client business that hired the consultancy - they knew they didn't have the requisite skills and so outsourced to an "expert" (and therefore can't be judged for not knowing how to secure their software since they did everything possible)

In this case the "client" is fully liable for the security issues.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#87
I believe there are various dimensions to vibe coding. If you work with an existing codebase, it is a tool to increase productivity. If you have domain specific knowledge, in this case - patient management system, you can build better systems.

Otherwise, you endup simulating the production. Lot of the non technical folks building products with AI Vibe coding are basically building Product Simulations. It looks like a product, functions like a product but behind the scene, you can poke holes.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#89

Don't blame the AI for what is clearly gross human negligence. It's like renovating your entire house and then acting surprised when the pipes burst because you used duct tape as a permanent fix.

Are duct tape manufacturers and their investors constantly hyping about how duct tape is the future, and how it is making professional plumbing obsolete?

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#90

I think the issue here is less about AI misbehaving and more about people doing things they should not be doing without thinking too hard about the consequences. There are going to be a lot of accidents like this because it's just really easy to do. And some people are inevitably going to do silly things. But it's not that different from people doing stupid things with Visual Basic back in the day. Or responding to f…

I'd argue that back in the visual basic/Delphi day, there was a minimum level of competence needed AND, more importantly, apps didn't have as much surface area because they weren't exposed to internet
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