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Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by graemep »

matsemann wrote: post #65
lynx97 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can buy interactions You're describing advertisment in general. Same with FB. If I throw enough money at a posting ad, I will gain interactions.

You're missing the point. There's a difference between buying an ad, something that's clearly marked as an ad and inserted as an ad, vs having your normal posts appear organic but still getting put in front of more people. Or, it's mainly the opposite. If you don't pay, you no longer get the organic, not even from your own followers.

On FB ads are not very clearly marked - the "sponsored" in grey lettering is not very noticeable.

They also promote anything that gets engagement which leads to showing people a lot of very nasty stuff.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by NewCzech »

My X account was banned about a week ago. I use X in an unusual way: I open up fifty tabs a day of people I want to read and see what they've posted in the past day. But I don't use the default feed at all. I often 'like' posts, but I very rarely post anything myself. I don't think I violated any X rules. But I can see why an algorithm think I look a little bit bot-ish.

I appealed the ban but AI declined my appeal. I couldn't circumvent the ban by using a VPN plus a different browser. I thought that would change my fingerprint enough to not be detectable, but perhaps I'm still detectable or perhaps my fingerprint through the VPN just looks suspicious.

Now I'm using something called "Gologin" that gives me a browser with a less unique footprint plus a residential IP in the USA. I have to pay for it. But at least I can use X still.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by sph »

nar001 wrote: post #74
kkfx wrote: post #73

We simply need open, decentralized or distributed platforms. Nostr is not that excellent, but it works, and have a potential to became "unified personal web platform", take a look at it.

Isn't that just Mastodon? Why would I use Nostr instead?

No heavy-handed moderation - as well as no algorithms of course; for some, it’s a pro, for others it’s not.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by sidewndr46 »

matsemann wrote: post #77
QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of them left, so maybe that's making it hard for the algorithm, but my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks Working as intended. It has been very clear for a very long time (in “Internet time”) that Mr “Free Speech Absolutist” Musk is only really interested in supporting far right propaganda. > Not a nice place to be, but I can see how it can be addicting / trigger something in the…

> Honest question, why would anyone willingly browse X? I don't know the psychology, but there absolutely is something akin to "outrage porn". Like, something in your brain wants you to go in and be outraged and annoyed about how stupid other's are, and how much better you are. Tried to search around for why it happens, this has some thoughts, "The dangerous pleasures of outrage": https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b…

I generally look at the political & social viewpoints of others to try and understand their viewpoint to some degree. Not for outrage. Even if I consider those viewpoints extreme or counter to my own.

That being said I don't browse X.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

Hamuko wrote: post #62
user34283 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My 'For you' feed is almost exclusively Photography, science and tech news. I believe it strongly depends on what you interact with. At some point I also had a lot of US news in my feed, but once I stopped opening those posts and instead used the 'Not interested in this post' button or muted the author, they disappeared. Probably following other accounts or liking photography posts also helped.

They're not on my For You feed, but anytime I watch a video on Twitter and it automatically jumps to a next video, it's always something that would never be on my feed. These days, it's usually bodycam footage from the United States (which I don't live in).

> it's usually bodycam footage from the United States (which I don't live in).

Ragebait.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by nticompass »

Sorry, but Twitter is only for bots now. Real humans need not log on. /s

That being said, I assume that it flagged the amount/frequency of likes or whatever other activity and thought it was suspicious. Probably used Grok to do that and it obviously isn't good at that.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by text0404 »

NewCzech wrote: post #82

My X account was banned about a week ago. I use X in an unusual way: I open up fifty tabs a day of people I want to read and see what they've posted in the past day. But I don't use the default feed at all. I often 'like' posts, but I very rarely post anything myself. I don't think I violated any X rules. But I can see why an algorithm think I look a little bit bot-ish. I appealed the ban but AI declined my appeal. I…

Ngl, this sounds like addiction. You don't have to use the site, man.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by The_President »

NewCzech wrote: post #82

My X account was banned about a week ago. I use X in an unusual way: I open up fifty tabs a day of people I want to read and see what they've posted in the past day. But I don't use the default feed at all. I often 'like' posts, but I very rarely post anything myself. I don't think I violated any X rules. But I can see why an algorithm think I look a little bit bot-ish. I appealed the ban but AI declined my appeal. I…

You'll be banned again - using a "residential IP" to appear domestic is a primary method used for accessing compromised accounts. We dissuade use of "privacy VPN" services for all users, as some of those services use the host as an exit node for unknown VPN traffic.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by rglullis »

KaiserPro wrote: post #79
rglullis wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all platforms are agressive about the tone-policing and "real life" is not a platform. AFAIK, we still don't live in a world where the moneyed class get to set the rules about who is allowed to exist in "real life". Also: scale and context matters. Someone telling you to shut up on a movie theater is not out of place, but whoever was next to you in the theater does not get to decide what you say in a bar or a PTA…

> AFAIK, we still don't live in a world where the moneyed class get to set the rules about who is allowed to exist in "real life". I mean thats just the legal system, its also deciding what is taught in schools, or churches (other religions are available). Currently in the USA there is "tone policing" about trans people. Laws are being put in place to enforce a certain style of living for people who are trans. Regard…

> each platform has its own tone, be that X, bluesky, the local darts club, PTA, or church. that tone is enforced by the people who support/take part in that platform.

You are abusing the meaning of the word "platform" to try to create a false equivalence that can be used to justify the absurdity that present-day Twitter is.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Post by mysterydip »

matsemann wrote: post #77
QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of them left, so maybe that's making it hard for the algorithm, but my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks Working as intended. It has been very clear for a very long time (in “Internet time”) that Mr “Free Speech Absolutist” Musk is only really interested in supporting far right propaganda. > Not a nice place to be, but I can see how it can be addicting / trigger something in the…

> Honest question, why would anyone willingly browse X? I don't know the psychology, but there absolutely is something akin to "outrage porn". Like, something in your brain wants you to go in and be outraged and annoyed about how stupid other's are, and how much better you are. Tried to search around for why it happens, this has some thoughts, "The dangerous pleasures of outrage": https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b…

Maybe it’s related to the tendency of a group to think the way other groups do things is weird/wrong to justify the existence/stance of the group. like “those people all look stupid, they don’t dress properly like we do” type middle school stuff.
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