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Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by perlgeek »

This is the point where you send a letter to the company, stating both the situation and the remedy you want (e.g. refund of payments for inaccessible services, cancellation of the account, maybe a reasonably small amount as compensation for damages).

In that letter, you set a reasonable deadline.

If they don't respond within that deadline, you take them to a small-claims court.

I understand that us tech bros want to fix everything online, but sadly that doesn't always work. But that's not the end of all your options.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by debazel »

h4kunamata wrote: post #2

Easy fix, wait for the next billing, contact the bank explaining what happened, and block that and future debits. At least in Australia, this shouldn't be a problem.

This is not an easy fix. Charge backs will lead to life-time permanent bans. Which means you're now forced to buy an iPhone in order to pass store attestation for essential applications like banking apps, government ID, age verification, etc.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

ainiriand wrote: post #39
esperent wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last year our bakery business got blocked from Google Maps. Reason: Your business is not eligible... Yep, apparently a brick and mortar bakery isn't eligible for Google Maps. Obviously bogus. I appealed over and over again, rereading the rules, watching every dumb YouTube video, fixing every minor imagined transgression I could think of and each time just got another BS automated "your business is not eligible...". P…

Damn! That is so dystopic to me. The future of businesses determined by the will of some customer support interpretations of bogus rules. Ain't that a bit black mirroresque?

Thanks to cumulative technical progress what used to be the domain of state actors has now trickled down to big business (on some level this is a joke, but also I'm dead serious). Someday it will trickle down to the bakery.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by anileated »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #54
tverbeure wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is so unreadable one would think that it's a parody of an LLM article.

I'm curious about what actually happened, but I can'make it past the second section, the writing is so terrible.

My theory is that YouTube blocks some accounts for publishing LLM-generated music, and people who wanted to earn ad money from it get burned and publish LLM-generated posts about it.

I would be on YouTube's side here, except it's possible that their motivation is simply to avoid poisoning their dataset while they train their models off creators videos. Also, the question is how they tell apart what's LLM-generated without false positives.

Maybe there were also artificial listens fraud (it's a problem with their competitor Spotify), but we'll never know because no one who was blocked would publish that honestly.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by MrDOS »

nopurpose wrote: post #69
Gareth321 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was after the hundredth post like this that I de-Googled my life. It was only a matter of time until something happened to my account, and I had so much of my life tied up in their services. The biggest and best change was buying my own domain and changing my email address. Now no one can ever remove access to my emails.

is there a risk that domain renew fee will skyrocket, because cost of change it for you now even higher?

For all of these newfangled TLDs that are springing out of the woodwork with strictly for-profit interests, yes. Even some ccTLDs have seen rapid price hikes in recent years.

I think the safest bet is to pre-renew the domains you really want to keep for as far out as you can (most registries allow you to renew a domain for up to 10 years). That way, if there is some major change to cost structures, you have a decade to either weather the storm or come up with a migration strategy.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by reedf1 »

psd1 wrote: post #51
reedf1 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't signed any agreement or opened any lines of credit - I would be amazed if there was any jurisdiction in the entire world where this would affect your credit.

Heuristically, that sounds naive. Actuaries do not typically think "oh, that's enough data". If Experian could track whether you iron your shirts, it too would show up in your credit score.

I mean possibly. I interact in the space and there is almost no information in a cancelled subscription. There is more information in how much you spent on takeaway.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by grebc »

cube00 wrote: post #28
grebc wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OP is already banned? Whats the issue in cancelling a charge you cannot use?

Google has a degree of seperation value stored on every account. Once the algorithm determines its been wronged it increases the radius so expect your household members and work colleagues accounts to be at risk when you try this.

Do you work for Google? I’m not sure what the problem is you’re describing.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

#88

Post by Orygin »

lrks128 wrote: post #45

Did you or did you not publish AI "music" on YouTube? This half AI written rant looks like an angry Rathbun bot. It needs a summary. YouTube is clamping down on AI content because they know people hate it and leave YouTube. There is no money in generative AI. Google needs to advertise to humans and not to Rathbun. That is why Disney cancelled the Sora deal.

Isn't like 7 out of 10 top artists on Spotify AI music?

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by grebc »

close04 wrote: post #53
reedf1 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bullshit - canceling the authorization will have no affect on your account at all, the subscription will just end.

Definitely not bullshit. I have a friend who was banned simply for returning a Pixel phone after accidentally ordering 2. Some automated mechanism flagged it as potential fraud and nothing worked to reverse the ban. Going to the bank to block payments, remove authorization, or God forbid, do a chargeback for the money they already took after banning you is playing Russian roulette with your Google account. It's also…

The account is already banned.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by A_Venom_Roll »

aquir wrote: post #5

Sad story but this has been written by an LLM (to original short story has been inflated by and LLM to turn into an "article"). Speak w/ your bank and ask them to block future charges - easy.

> A clean message. A closed system. No actual solution. > This is not just about content moderation anymore. This is about basic account control.

These kind of articles are becoming unreadable

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