EFF is leaving X • Hacker News Board

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by ceejayoz » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:47 PM UTC

bko wrote: post #74

ceejayoz wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is the contention here that there is more censorship on X compared to Twitter pre acquisition? That's easy to sustain. Pre-acquisition: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 Post-acquisition: https://x.com/elonjet

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> That's where you draw the line?

Yes, a "free-speech absolutist" who explicitly promised to preserve a very specific example of free speech on explicit free speech grounds immediately banned the account when he was able to.

And then he banned reporters for reporting on it.

It's the easiest possible example to demonstrate his principles were never genuine here.

> Falsely labeling non-violent people as “fascist” or “Nazi” should be treated as incitement to murder

That's not very free speech, right?

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:47 PM UTC

crims0n wrote: post #58

I don't understand, does it cost them something to copy/paste their posts to X?

Brand reputation. Every brand that chooses to use X implicitly supports X, even if they're not verified & paying X money.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by rangerelf » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:47 PM UTC

txrx0000 wrote: post #31

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This is to laughably misguided that it leans toward malicious.

I mean, you're talking about Elon, the Doge guy, the one who organized mass hoovering of citizens data from whatever sources he could get his grubby mitts on? That Elon?

Opposed to mass surveillance??

And then you sprinkle some commonly known truths on top to make your comment palatable ("we're being divided and conquered!"), and finally you add a dash of malicious speculation to seed some doubt against the organization ("Perhaps the EFF has been compromised!! It's a trick!!").

No thanks.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by kjksf » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

numpad0 wrote: post #50

> We called for: > - Transparent content moderation: Publicly shared policies, clear appeals processes, and renewed commitment to the Santa Clara Principles > - Real security improvements: Including genuine end-to-end encryption for direct messages > - Greater user control: Giving users and third-party developers the means to control the user experience through filters and interoperability. Makes sense. Especially th…

Are they getting that from Bluesky? Mastodon? LinkedIn? Instagram? TikTok? Facebook?

Of course not.

And yet they leave X and only X.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by mghackerlady » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

Ajedi32 wrote: post #71

Their logic for why they're on TikTok and Facebook seems sound to me, but doesn't that same logic apply to X? I kept waiting for the explanation but it never came...

there isn't enough people left there to be worth the tradeoff

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by lambdas » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #47

This reads like the classic Youtuber whose annoyed their views dropped (this almost always amounts to 'people don't actually like your content as much as you thought'). >We posted to Twitter (now known as X) five to ten times a day in 2018. Those tweets garnered somewhere between 50 and 100 million impressions per month. By 2024, our 2,500 X posts generated around 2 million impressions each month. Last year, our 1,50…

I don’t feel their stance is “I’m not getting enough attention and it’s all Musk’s fault and I’m leaving”.

More “X is simply not worth our time anymore”. I can’t say with any certainty that X is on a death spiral (personally it does feel that way), but the kind of crowd who have remained in spite of Musk’s many public embarrassments (and the handling of Grok deep fakes and women) probably aren’t the kind who are passionate about the EFF

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by an0malous » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

sgt wrote: post #7

nslsm wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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A sandbox, sure, but a toxic one?

YC for sure is, HN should be separated from it and run independently. There’s tons of brigading against any criticism of YC or any of its portfolio companies. Just the other day someone re-posted OpenAI’s post about how GPT-2 was too dangerous to release (in response to the similar recent claim about Claude Mythos), I saw it hit #1 and then a few minutes later it had gotten flagged off the front page.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by sirbutters » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

an0malous wrote: post #52

I closed my X account Tuesday evening after the US-Iran ceasefire was announced. Something just snapped finally and I realized there’s no value in monitoring the situation and all these accounts are just monetizing my energy and attention with no value provided. The only social media I’m going to keep for now is Reddit and YouTube because I think it’s still a net positive for the educational content, but even those a…

How the hell is this comment shadowed? It's 100% true.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by crims0n » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

6thbit wrote: post #69

Any chance they keep an RSS?

Yes: https://www.eff.org/rss/updates.xml

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by mghackerlady » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 5:49 PM UTC

brindidrip wrote: post #70

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Person fighting for liberty fights for liberty, more at 11