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Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by dfadsadsf »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #64
superxpro12 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whats the take-home after housing and expenses tho? It's the same in CA... massive salaries, but also massive taxes+housing expenses.

At least in my experience, having worked in both Florida and California, that's more of a wash than people imagine it's going to be -- and more so than the "cost of living calculators" tend to demonstrate, at least if you're a renter. I actually ran a few numbers based on current costs. If you're making $120K/yr in Florida and paying the average cost for a 1-bedroom rental in Tampa ($1,642/mo, as of April 2026 accord…

That math breaks down if you have kids and need 4bdrm house commutable distance to work in good school district - prohibitively expensive in Bay Area and affordable on engineer salary in most tier 2 cities. If you do not have kids, Bay Area clearly wins, especially if you are ok with studio/1bdrm.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

coldpie wrote: post #14

I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. If you launch a business and you have not done the work to have a business plan, then in 99.999% of situations, your business will fail. A business plan includes market & competitive research, a revenue plan based on that research that includes realistic pr…

> I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan.

Not in tech you don't. The business plan these days is try and get as much investment money as you can to redistribute to your friends, have a few parties, hand out some Macbooks and try to get acquired by Google before your runway runs out.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by alcasa »

cl3misch wrote: post #44
Archelaos wrote: post #11

> In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Why not outsource this to a cheaper country? For example, here in Germany salaries are about half of that, and the talent pool is excellent.

Afaik Germany is one of the most expensive countries for employing white collar jobs? The gross income to the employee might be 75k in Germany, but the cost to the employer is roughly twice that amount in turn. In my (very naive) mental model, US salaries are higher, have less "overhead" for the employer, but leave more responsibility (healthcare, retirement) to the employee.

Employer cost is not 2x, more like 1.2x, employer overhead is mostly insurance related stuff. We had salaray to employer cost tables at my previous job.

What true though is that after taxes you might just receive 60% of your total salary once you deduct taxes and insurances.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by lowdude »

mcherm wrote: post #60
rvz wrote: post #37

> In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year, and on top of this there are legal and operational overheads for running the STF. Translation: Our product makes no money, has no use case and we need $1M to survive. Two ways a PE "cost saver" would fix this: 1. Claude + 1x senior engineer (in India). 2. CTO + Claude and no senior engineers / employees. Given we have (alleged…

So you are suggesting that a private communications and messaging system that proports to offer reliable anonymity is a reasonable use case for more-or-less unsupervised development by Claude? Because that is just the sort of use case where I would NOT trust an unsupervised AI.

That is probably the reason they added the /s at the end

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by roryirvine »

walthamstow wrote: post #45

Sad. I will need a new way to communicate with my guy.

Ha, and it was also used as a kind of low-rent/unmoderated alternative to Onlyfans.

Certainly, there were enough people making money through it that they should have been able to cover operating expenses. How did they go about appealing for donations - was there a notification inside the app, or did they rely on word of mouth?

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by matwood »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #82
coldpie wrote: post #14

I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. If you launch a business and you have not done the work to have a business plan, then in 99.999% of situations, your business will fail. A business plan includes market & competitive research, a revenue plan based on that research that includes realistic pr…

> I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. Not in tech you don't. The business plan these days is try and get as much investment money as you can to redistribute to your friends, have a few parties, hand out some Macbooks and try to get acquired by Google before your runway runs out.

> The business plan these days is try and get as much investment money

I know you're trying to be snarky, but this is itself a business plan and will impact how the company is operated.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by horsawlarway »

mhitza wrote: post #2

Never heard of them, and this page doesn't tell me what they do, but I've laughed at this line > In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Not really, there's basically a single sub-market in the US market where that is the norm.

Nah, like others have said - 150k is fairly normal for senior positions in any decently sized metro in the US at this point.

Even a decade ago, seniors could easily be pulling 120-150k in markets like Houston/Atlanta/Miami/etc... The relatively cheap markets.

I'm in Atlanta and I'd actually say 150k is a lowball offer for a senior in this market at this point. I'd expect 175k+.

Now - the flip side of this is that current competition is fairly insane with all the recent tech layoffs. So it's possible we're seeing some market correction. But I don't really think it's going to come down much. Between inflation and rising costs... 150k just isn't what it used to be. If it comes down... it's going to be because we're entering a real depression.

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The amount of money the US government has printed in the last 7 years is... insane. And while it was starting to taper back down in 2023 and early 2024... then we got the GOP, and the GOP is objectively bad with money (not that the dems are that much better...). So m1 supply is rising at a relatively steady rate again.

We going to feel the consequences for a LONG time (or very, very badly for a medium time... with unknown results).

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by gchamonlive »

oofbey wrote: post #62
coldpie wrote: post #14

I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. If you launch a business and you have not done the work to have a business plan, then in 99.999% of situations, your business will fail. A business plan includes market & competitive research, a revenue plan based on that research that includes realistic pr…

Privacy enthusiasts tend to align with anarchists - people who intrinsically distrust institutions. Maybe this also correlates with qualities like blind optimism, or disbelief in institutions like capitalism?

> Privacy enthusiasts tend to align with anarchists - people who intrinsically distrust institutions

That's not a reasonable definition. The distrust in the institution is actually a side effect of questioning the authority for authority sake. Anarchists aren't a bunch of individualists that want to burn down whatever we've got in terms of mechanisms in the society regardless if they are necessary. It's just the manifestation of the dialectical opposite of the expression of power and authority.

And privacy enthusiasts just know very well that power shifts and what once was a necessary mechanism can be abused by an elected authoritarian leader.

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