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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by markoman »

twen_ty wrote: post #16

This is what happens when there's no effective opposition. Where are the dems? Where's the press?

What's truly shocking is that a large part of what got Trump elected in 2024 (and the world in this mess now) was that the GOP cleverly stoked the fears of transgenderism via local-market ad buys during the election. This very play was the reason for much of Trump's gains with various demo's such as black males and hispanics/latinos. So many of these folks were completely triggered by 'grooming' and the ideas that girls are having to compete against transgender girls in their sports. The fact that folks were willing to elect Trump so that a very small number of women wouldn't have to compete against transgenders, is sad beyond words. Perhaps this (will turn into) a lesson well learned, although voters have notoriously short memories. Sophistication of this type among the masses is sorely lacking.

The ruling class has us just where they want us -- so focused on & fearful of losing our little jobs that we don't have context around much else so that we can do a thoughtful job of performing as an electorate. This is how you elect a Donald Trump, as THEY have now learned.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by akagusu »

sheikhnbake wrote: post #76
akagusu wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily. The press is owned by the billionaires that paid Trump's campaign. They literally bought the presidency for Trump.

You're preaching to the choir. The oligarchy has indeed thoroughly captured the fourth estate

I think they already captured all.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by dylan604 »

srean wrote: post #61
dylan604 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the internal checks and balances of the United States appear not to be working There is one last test, but it's not until November. Until then, Trump is on a speed run to destroy everything he can

There's the 25th too but I dont think anyone with access to that option has the spine.

That requires that 15 cabinet members invoke the 25th followed by 2/3 of both house of Congress agree. So, yeah, not enough spine involved to count on the 25th in this situation

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by nailer »

Animats wrote: post #46

Response from Iran: "Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) says it will respond outside the region and deprive the United States and its allies of oil and gas “for many years” if the US crosses “red lines” and attacks civilian facilities."[1] "Iran has closed all diplomatic and indirect channels of communication with the United States, the state-run Tehran Times reported ..." US media does not seem to have…

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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by nailer »

spwa4 wrote: post #78

How is Trump's threat the most extreme in this war? Hell, "a whole civilization might die tonight?". The islamic regime in Iran has explicitly set wiping out Persian civilization as it's goal, more than 50 years ago. And they've worked hard at it. Or how about: Iran's regime threatens to make life in the middle east essentially impossible: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/iran-threat-to... Iran's regime…

This is factually correct and shouldn't be downvoted.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by nailer »

TimorousBestie wrote: post #12
zulux wrote: post #11

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> Women get acid in the face for dressing wrong, and protesters are killed in the thousands. Gay people are thrown from rooftops or hanged. By your standards, civilization in the United States has been dead for a long time and shows no signs of revival.

Where in the US is:

> "women get acid in the face for dressing wrong, and protesters are killed in the thousands. Gay people are thrown from rooftops or hanged."

happening?

I suspect you know that's an outlandish thing to claim.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by Gud »

nailer wrote: post #84
Animats wrote: post #46

Response from Iran: "Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) says it will respond outside the region and deprive the United States and its allies of oil and gas “for many years” if the US crosses “red lines” and attacks civilian facilities."[1] "Iran has closed all diplomatic and indirect channels of communication with the United States, the state-run Tehran Times reported ..." US media does not seem to have…

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I guess we’ll find out!

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Post by potsandpans »

Barrin92 wrote: post #33
twen_ty wrote: post #16

This is what happens when there's no effective opposition. Where are the dems? Where's the press?

It's wrong to even frame this as a partisan question. When the leader of a democratic country threatens a nation of 90 million people with genocide, that should be the end of that government on that same day. Where is the entire US population? You hear nothing but crickets, what an utterly passive, terminally ill society.

Are you seriously asking or just using this space as a soapbox?

If you are, here's some useful info:

Every city in the United States has what could be categorized as a standing army in the form of a police force. They are ready and highly trained to violently stop civil unrest.

The police force deploys sophisticated technology and dragnet methodology to track and build profiles on all citizens that attend protests.

Similarly, the media and status quo is captured so thoroughly that all forms of mass protest appear eventually degenerate into lawless havoc to onlookers, which perpetuates a cycle of violence.

The state has no problem in engaging in mass arrests. And when the cultural moment has moved on, individuals are stuck fighting extreme charges and face having to make the difficult choice of pleaing out to resume what semblance of life remains. And if you want to fight, risk facing some of the most inhumane conditions in the developed world by spending some time in a federal prison.

So, "where is the entire US population?"

Mostly surviving and scared.

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