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US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
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Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
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I'm starting to believe that China isn't going to make the move. It's winning the hearts and minds of the rest of the world and will be able to leverage its growing soft power well beyond what Taiwan would provide. I just don't see them giving up the position the US has abandoned.
China's better move rn would be to go for the big soft power play and ditch the Russians for the abandoned Europeans.
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Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess now would be a good time for China to make its move on you-know-who.
Not just yet, they should wait for a little bit. The US isn't done depleting its inventory yet, the US might get itself in a lot deeper yet, and the US population will only detest the war even more given time. All of those things will help China take Taiwan. If Iran gets ugly enough the US population will just have that much less willingness to get involved in another major conflict. 3-18 months for Taiwan (9-18 more…
If China were to learn anything important from Russia and the USAs "swift" wars it's: don't do it. They'll have the upper hand but a determined government and population will bog down their efforts for years and potentially destabilize politics at home.
Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's impressive how the US intelligence agencies must have been gutted under Trump. I'm guessing if there were anybody competent left, this is the kind of thing they would have known. I can't imagine the level of secrecy it would take to hide something like this from a competent NRO - the amount of construction work, the little girls coming and going - what did they think, it was a military Epstein island?
They've hit about 8000 targets. One in 8000 is incredibly good for an actual conflict.
It's not one. It's just the most talked about one.
The two week war is dragging on. The Orange Turd said it's not fair that Iran started shooting back. Inflation is going to cause widespread misery in the US and elsewhere. Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz and collects tolls, when before they didn't have control. Iran will also build nukes now. This war of aggression has highlighted why it's needed for their regime's survival.
So no, it's not going very well at all.
Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
China's better move rn would be to go for the big soft power play and ditch the Russians for the abandoned Europeans.
China doesn't think in that way. It doesn't make permanent alliances. It is always open to reach limited, scoped deals in fields where it benefits them.
Yeah that sounds like a pretty good deal. Drop the bankrupt Russians and do a deal with us Europeans, a much richer market, to brace against US economic warfare.
Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oil itself is becoming irrelevant quickly. It's a play for becoming king of the ashes.
Familiarize yourself with this: https://www.worldometers.info/oil/ Top reserves by country, historical data on consumption (including by country). These basic data points explain US foreign policy better than anything. There is no data or trends that supports the notion that oil is becoming irrelevant, much less quickly. US with it's current reserves and oil consumption rate would last roughly 12 years, btw.
Let me show you this figure in response: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/United-States-Farm-based...
US farm horse population over time. Looked like it was gonna grow endlessly in the 1920s. It didn't because the whole thing became obsolete.
Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
To win the war another time, I guess ? To be fair, he told us we would get "tired of winning". On a more serious note : could it be that iranian air defense is being supplemented by an ally ? Someone further east ? Or, simply, that they kept some reserve to keep the war long, and play with the American customer's never ?
Why make up unsubstantiated claims about Chinese support, when it is known that Russia supports Iran with military hardware?
To be honest, I was thinking as much about Russia as about China, but I fumbled my geography by over-easting Moscow. Sorry.
Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
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At some point someone will stop joking that Trump is a "Russian asset" and start assuming that he's paid by Xi to ensure a millenia of Chinese domination. Which would be wrong of course : he's ensuring millenia of Chinese domination, and he's getting paid for it, just not by China. 2028 is going to be... Weird. But it will be Rubio or Vance of Heghseig's problem.
I've never heard anyone joke about it. It's an obvious fact of the world we live in.
Colbert spent months riffing on the "pee-pee-tape".
Which, as far as I know, has never been substantiated.
So, of course, maybe Moscow has something about Trump. Or maybe Trump is just playing everyone, including himself.
Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess now would be a good time for China to make its move on you-know-who.
Not just yet, they should wait for a little bit. The US isn't done depleting its inventory yet, the US might get itself in a lot deeper yet, and the US population will only detest the war even more given time. All of those things will help China take Taiwan. If Iran gets ugly enough the US population will just have that much less willingness to get involved in another major conflict. 3-18 months for Taiwan (9-18 more…
> The US isn't done depleting its inventory yet
Yes, reading articles like this one, I suspect it's going to be the lack of firepower that causes this administration to finally back out of the conflict. And with these number it sounds like it might be sooner than later.
Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> while the population just watches it happen... About 1/5 of America voted for this guy after seeing the trainwreck of his first admin. At the same time, protests response is continually growing and breaking records as economic disparities and totalitarian responses intensify.
Looking at all Americans in deceiving. For starters, 1/5 are below the voting age. 49.8% of voters voted for this.
1/5th are below the voting age, but minors have also been demonstrating pretty heavily, particularly against ICE