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Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by beejiu »

wrxd wrote: post #79
beejiu wrote: post #76

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I can only speak from a UK perspective, but all broadcast media here is regulated. So the things you might see in the US just can't happen and don't happen here. Everything has to be editorially balanced. Online media doesn't fall under the same regulations.

GB News?

GB News gets a lot of criticism, but I watch the odd show and I've always found it to be balanced. There's a lot of political and regulatory pressure against them, so much so that GB News took Ofcom to the High Court and overturned illegal actions that Ofcom had taken.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by Melonai »

beejiu wrote: post #16

Because you can't get doomlooped into right-wing podcasts and "citizen journalism" on the TV. Sample quotes from men in the study: "Who tells me what's right and what's wrong... is it true or is it not true? Some of the things on YouTube are independent. I find I would listen to them more, because they're on the ground. They're telling you the story. " "If you see something on social media, whether you believe it or…

Those comments are something... I take the most issue with the second one. I wonder if the person knows they're directly describing group-think. That's something that would theoretically get you called a "sheeple" in some places, unless you agree with the general opinion held by most people there, of course. :)

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by slumberlust »

krapp wrote: post #67
jasondigitized wrote: post #29

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This is the only downside. You really need to curate good content.

I don't know about everyone else's experience but I find Youtube to be pretty good at finding interesting content, especially for music. Curation is necessary but it does work.

Interesting. One of my many many complaints with YTMusic is that it does discovery very poorly. It fills any radio/discovery queue with one or two new songs followed by all the songs already on my playlists.

Other big complaints include no ability to prevent it from substantially using my cell data despite telling it to do everything over wifi. I've taken to just removing network permissions from the app unless I want to add something.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by worldsayshi »

bonoboTP wrote: post #47
worldsayshi wrote: post #33

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I find YT to be very sloppy nowadays. Not so much AI content as content that is over-optimized for clicks and revenue. 80% filler and maybe 20% substance. I should probably de-algoify my YT experience.

YT is huge, and there is plenty of good stuff. You just need to subscribe to good channels that are not so easy to find. And block the clickbait channels when they appear.

I wish we could collectively move over to some decentralized alternative. Even if we make sure to disable the bad parts, relying on these few actors that have such revenue optimized and enshitification-prone business models does not sit right.

Although decentralization by itself does probably not protect from this trap in the long run.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by krapp »

slumberlust wrote: post #83
krapp wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about everyone else's experience but I find Youtube to be pretty good at finding interesting content, especially for music. Curation is necessary but it does work.

Interesting. One of my many many complaints with YTMusic is that it does discovery very poorly. It fills any radio/discovery queue with one or two new songs followed by all the songs already on my playlists. Other big complaints include no ability to prevent it from substantially using my cell data despite telling it to do everything over wifi. I've taken to just removing network permissions from the app unless I wan…

I'm not using Youtube Music, just regular free Youtube with an ad blocker.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by Melonai »

twobitshifter wrote: post #66
eru wrote: post #20

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If you don't watch on mobile, is there anything that YouTube Premiums gives you that an ad-blocker doesn't?

YouTube music, higher quality video, and the ‘jump ahead’ feature to skip portions of a video that others usually skip.

Also, though not a benefit to you in particular, apparently any creator you watch with Premium gets a way bigger payout for your view. Only heard about this anecdotally but it seems to track.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by dzhiurgis »

slumberlust wrote: post #83
krapp wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about everyone else's experience but I find Youtube to be pretty good at finding interesting content, especially for music. Curation is necessary but it does work.

Interesting. One of my many many complaints with YTMusic is that it does discovery very poorly. It fills any radio/discovery queue with one or two new songs followed by all the songs already on my playlists. Other big complaints include no ability to prevent it from substantially using my cell data despite telling it to do everything over wifi. I've taken to just removing network permissions from the app unless I wan…

IMO you don’t need curation/algo - you need social network effect where you follow people who repost similar content you like. Your graph grows and if you don’t like something - cut them off. This is how soundcloud works.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by dzhiurgis »

bonoboTP wrote: post #47
worldsayshi wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find YT to be very sloppy nowadays. Not so much AI content as content that is over-optimized for clicks and revenue. 80% filler and maybe 20% substance. I should probably de-algoify my YT experience.

YT is huge, and there is plenty of good stuff. You just need to subscribe to good channels that are not so easy to find. And block the clickbait channels when they appear.

Ask Mode is pretty great. Wish they’d just summarise all the video titles for me so I could avoid bait.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by ModernMech »

I noticed this about my Dad, he's 66. Growing up he was always in front of the TV watching whatever show was on. Today he's never there, now he's always in front of his iPad watching YouTube, watching videos of tractors excavating things.
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