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Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by akimbostrawman »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #14

SteamDeck should be excluded from “Linux use” imho. Especially when it comes to click bait headlines. Like yes it is Linux. But SteamDeck is a completely different beast from desktop Linux. They might as well be entirely different OS’s. Especially if the SteamDeck is being used to play Win32 binaries!

>completely different beast from desktop Linux

Absolutely not. If you ever actually used it you would know that the only difference is a custom big picture mode like interface. Anything else is literally the same code.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by leononame »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #75
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Like yes it is Linux. But SteamDeck is a completely different beast from desktop Linux. They might as well be entirely different OS’s. It's really not; SteamOS is just another GNU/Linux, and pretty close to vanilla Arch Linux for that matter. > Especially if the SteamDeck is being used to play Win32 binaries! Proton works fine on other distros.

> SteamOS is just another GNU/Linux if you are a gamedev considering support for SteamOS and considering support for generic Linux desktop they really really really REALLY are not the same. At all.

Why not? Could you elaborate? I'd love to know more. I always had the feeling that supporting SteamOS basically meant that generic Linux Desktop support was almost implied because in the end it's almost always on Proton rather than native.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by Zardoz84 »

wafflemaker wrote: post #64

When playing eve online on Linux (via Proton), the moment any other window gets focus, or the mouse slights off the game screen onto the second monitor on the side, game minimizes. I have a feeling it's just wine things. Can anybody understand what happens and maybe explain it a little? I remember that 13 years ago I did everything on Linux and only switched to Windows to play eve online. Now the game works beautiful…

There is a weird bug in Helldivers 2 when you use the maximized window without borders and you have a multi monitor setup. Sometimes, the character stops of rotating with the mouse look... like if the mouse cursor found a limit. Another, it's with the full screen mode. When I switch windows with AltTab, sometimes the game restores with the wrong display proportions.

As far I know, this bugs happens on Windows too.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by akimbostrawman »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #75
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Like yes it is Linux. But SteamDeck is a completely different beast from desktop Linux. They might as well be entirely different OS’s. It's really not; SteamOS is just another GNU/Linux, and pretty close to vanilla Arch Linux for that matter. > Especially if the SteamDeck is being used to play Win32 binaries! Proton works fine on other distros.

> SteamOS is just another GNU/Linux if you are a gamedev considering support for SteamOS and considering support for generic Linux desktop they really really really REALLY are not the same. At all.

That is not true. Proton and steam linux runtime which are the components actually responsible to run games are literally the exact same code provided by the steam client.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime

https://github.com/valvesoftware/proton

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by MayeulC »

wafflemaker wrote: post #64

When playing eve online on Linux (via Proton), the moment any other window gets focus, or the mouse slights off the game screen onto the second monitor on the side, game minimizes. I have a feeling it's just wine things. Can anybody understand what happens and maybe explain it a little? I remember that 13 years ago I did everything on Linux and only switched to Windows to play eve online. Now the game works beautiful…

Not sure why that happens, but you may want to try "borderless window" instead of fullscreen in the game options. If that does not work, you could try running the game in gamescope, or enabling the wine virtual desktop with winecfg (point it at your game-specific wine prefix, you can also run it from protontricks). These are just a few ideas, but it does sound like a mechanism that is part if the game, not wine. Just like some games crash when you alt-tab in windows; gamescope tends to fix that.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by Zardoz84 »

sonzohan wrote: post #4

When Windows 11 was force-installed on my main game development desktop, I was skeptical, but kept using it. I was annoyed at having to turn off all the tracking and noise (like news articles) When it updated and started shoving AI down my throat, with no easy way to turn it off and suddenly lots of data I don't consent to sharing getting used, 11 became the last Windows OS I'll ever use. Whenever the next version co…

I strongly suggest any other distro that is Ubuntu. Canonical is a Microsoft wannabe

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by Karliss »

legitster wrote: post #12

The top distro is Arch - implying that the Steam Deck userbase is moving the needle. Linus has said on a few occasions that the main thing holding back user adoption for desktop is a single distro with a clear focus. What Android did for mobile. It's clear that SteamOS could be "that guy" if Valve wants it to be.

Steam Deck is currently ~25% of those 5% Linux users. Good chunk but not a majority. You can estimate it in two different ways which produce similar results: filtering to Linux only looking at OS list "SteamOS Holo 64 bit" is 24.48% and in the GPU list "AMD Custom GPU 0405"+"RADV VANGOGH" add up to 23.72%.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by malbs »

mcv wrote: post #57
malbs wrote: post #23

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I tried cachy, but I decided I hate the kde plasma environment, I should have chosen some other window manager but wanted to try the recommended one there is also something to be said, negatively, for the number of distros now, cambrian explosion since the good old days of slack, deb, redhat, suse lol

Doesn't Cachy support all of the DEs? Use it to try them all. (I don't know how CachyOS handles it; EndeavourOS lets you pick the DE on login.

yeah, on install you select a window manager, I didn't bother trying any others, just opted to go to Debian instead

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by malbs »

fyredge wrote: post #77
malbs wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to give you a single data point, I've finally committed to linux on my desktop machine at home (I posted in another comment on this thread regarding my sim setup, thats another issue), but on the desktop machine, I installed steam, proton, downloaded a few games from my library, and they just worked on install, no stuffing around at all, no searching the web for fixes to get it going. It's probably been 6 years since…

> I needed to get xone and compile it and install the driver, a minor inconvenience, Call me nitpicky, but this is why Linux desktop is not ready yet. If anything, I'm a firm believer that SteamOS will be Linux Desktop

I agree, but I'm sure Bazzite/CachySteamOS all have support for them on boot.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by ga_to »

darkteflon wrote: post #55
malbs wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On my wife's laptop, I've uninstalled MS AI 3 times. I'm just about to lose my mind. I'd have already wiped the machine and moved it to mint but the data in her one drive, bookmarks, etc, I'm sure migrating her over won't be a totally seamless experience. I also have not tested battlenet under linux wine in a long time, and I expect some level of anti-cheat to give me hell there. On all of my machines bar one, window…

Sadly, the original Assetto Corsa is also borked on Linux (AC Evo and AC Rally, on the other hand, run great).

In my (admittedly limited) experience, it does run, even with quite comparable performance, but getting a wheel to interact with the game has been a bit challenging. But this could be resolved with a custom driver for my specific hardware. Using the community standard mod manager seems to resolve the UI jank by completely bypassing it.
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