It's been said elsewhere but... when you kick a hornets nest, it's the hornets who decide when that fight is over.
Or all hornets are dead.
Even with nukes, you won't get rid of 90 million hornets in a mountainous and hilly nation.
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How should the Israelis be expected to respond if Iran starts deliberately killing large numbers of civilians? You only have to follow the laws of war if your enemy is making an attempt to follow them.
Iran has a right to defend itself doesn't it? All Israelis with the exception of the Haredi serve in the Israeli Occupation Force.
Not at any given time, though. It's okay for Iran to kill Israeli children because they may some day serve in the IDF? Then I guess it's okay for the Israelis to carpet bomb Iranian cities?
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Even with nukes, you won't get rid of 90 million hornets in a mountainous and hilly nation.
The remaining hornets would re-associate with other groups, like kurds, etc. and no longer consider themselves subjects of Iran.
Hah, wishful thinking that. If your family is wiped out by invaders, you will vow vengeance till either their death or yours.
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The remaining hornets would re-associate with other groups, like kurds, etc. and no longer consider themselves subjects of Iran.
Hah, wishful thinking that. If your family is wiped out by invaders, you will vow vengeance till either their death or yours.
If that were true statistically speaking you'd see a lot more post-war violence, after vietnam war, Iraq war, ...
In truth, the bereaved will surely be angry at the bombs dropped by party X, but at the same time understand the impatience of party X towards government Y that oppressed both you and your dead family.
There is much more room for regret: regret of not openly supporting saner voices, regret of taking what seemed to be the least personally risky path, until the final conclusion proved otherwise...
Allowing your government to rot to the core and pretending citizens do not carry any responsibility is what leads to things like Nazi germany, Iran, etc...
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Hah, wishful thinking that. If your family is wiped out by invaders, you will vow vengeance till either their death or yours.
If that were true statistically speaking you'd see a lot more post-war violence, after vietnam war, Iraq war, ... In truth, the bereaved will surely be angry at the bombs dropped by party X, but at the same time understand the impatience of party X towards government Y that oppressed both you and your dead family. There is much more room for regret: regret of not openly supporting saner voices, regret of taking what…
You are definitely seeing a lot more post-war violence after the American-induced wars of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon, etc. You can check the statistics yourself - there IS a structural increase in conflicts. The world is seeing more simultaneous conflicts than in decades. Most of which can be laid at feet of U.S. & Israel.
The War against Iran is the most stupid conflict I have seen instigated by the U.S. Your quote of "regret of not openly supporting saner voices" should be directed at the U.S. & Israel since they launched this war. There was no cause for it except for distracting from the Epstein files and any blackmail material held by Israel.
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If that were true statistically speaking you'd see a lot more post-war violence, after vietnam war, Iraq war, ... In truth, the bereaved will surely be angry at the bombs dropped by party X, but at the same time understand the impatience of party X towards government Y that oppressed both you and your dead family. There is much more room for regret: regret of not openly supporting saner voices, regret of taking what…
You are definitely seeing a lot more post-war violence after the American-induced wars of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon, etc. You can check the statistics yourself - there IS a structural increase in conflicts. The world is seeing more simultaneous conflicts than in decades. Most of which can be laid at feet of U.S. & Israel. The War against Iran is the most stupid conflict I have seen instigated by…
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> Hah, wishful thinking that. If your family is wiped out by invaders, you will vow vengeance till either their death or yours.
And then changed the supposed vengeance across oceans into local vengeance when asked for evidence.
You don't go to war against a nation with a happy population: it generates a whole nation of enemies.
If you only go to war against a nation with unhappy populations, you will probably leave them as unhappy as you found them, but hopefully they can start taking matters in their own hands...
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If that were true statistically speaking you'd see a lot more post-war violence, after vietnam war, Iraq war, ... In truth, the bereaved will surely be angry at the bombs dropped by party X, but at the same time understand the impatience of party X towards government Y that oppressed both you and your dead family. There is much more room for regret: regret of not openly supporting saner voices, regret of taking what…
You are definitely seeing a lot more post-war violence after the American-induced wars of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon, etc. You can check the statistics yourself - there IS a structural increase in conflicts. The world is seeing more simultaneous conflicts than in decades. Most of which can be laid at feet of U.S. & Israel. The War against Iran is the most stupid conflict I have seen instigated by…
Whenever there are 2 excuses, none of them are correct: I see explanations from Epstein files, to compromat by Israel to insider trading, ... you ascribe too much power to a president and not enough to deep state actors.
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You are definitely seeing a lot more post-war violence after the American-induced wars of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon, etc. You can check the statistics yourself - there IS a structural increase in conflicts. The world is seeing more simultaneous conflicts than in decades. Most of which can be laid at feet of U.S. & Israel. The War against Iran is the most stupid conflict I have seen instigated by…
You said > Hah, wishful thinking that. If your family is wiped out by invaders, you will vow vengeance till either their death or yours. And then changed the supposed vengeance across oceans into local vengeance when asked for evidence. You don't go to war against a nation with a happy population: it generates a whole nation of enemies. If you only go to war against a nation with unhappy populations, you will probabl…
> And then changed the supposed vengeance across oceans into local vengeance when asked for evidence.
Obviously it is local vengeance. And the U.S. DEEPLY fears it, no matter how many times Hegseth thumps his chest and bloviates.
Why do you think U.S. troops evacuated from all their bases and now hiding using Gulf citizens as human shields ? Because they know if they stay, they will die messily.
Why did all the aircraft carriers pulled back ? Because of "Laundry fires" ? Even the Abraham Lincoln pulled back >1000km away. Because they know if they stay, they will be sunk.
Why do you think Trump doesn't dare a ground invasion or open the Strait of Hormuz? Because the commanders know that U.S. troops will die messily in an orgy of vengeance, no matter if Trump declares the U.S. has "won" the war 20+ times.
Why do you think Trump doesn't evacuate the nuclear material - the piss-poor excuse for the war - using a special operation ? Because the commanders know that U.S. troops in any such operation will be slaughtered messily.
Why do you think Israel is taking far more casualties now after 2023 compared to earlier decades ? Because people don't really care if they live or die as long as they can take down an IDF soldier who killed their family, including children. Now Israel is losing Merkava tanks like flies in Lebanon.
Feel free to Cope Harder with your irrational and nonsensical arguments about "unhappy populations"