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Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Re: Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Post by fredoliveira »

thisislife2 wrote: post #73
ctmnt wrote: post #7

This looks cool enough, but it’s starting to drive me crazy how people are in such a rush to put out their macOS apps they can’t be bothered to get a developer account and run a one line command. It’s not hard. I used to be sympathetic to complaints about not wanting to pay the developer account fee. But when you’re vibe coding, you’re probably paying a good chunk of change to your LLM supplier of choice every month,…

> they can’t be bothered to get a developer account and run a one line command I applaud that they didn't kowtow to Apple's attempt to exercise control over their app and extort money from them. Why should we accede to policies that are designed to exploit us developers? We developers add the real value to a platform . Don't believe me? Look up on how popular Sailfish OS or Windows Mobile OS is and why they failed or…

> It's just sad that whether you are a user or a developer, Apple Fanbois would rather (ignorantly) place Apple's interest over their own consumer rights.

You think notarizing an app is "placing Apple's interest over" our own?

Re: Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Post by IncRnd »

seany wrote: post #77
ctmnt wrote: post #7

This looks cool enough, but it’s starting to drive me crazy how people are in such a rush to put out their macOS apps they can’t be bothered to get a developer account and run a one line command. It’s not hard. I used to be sympathetic to complaints about not wanting to pay the developer account fee. But when you’re vibe coding, you’re probably paying a good chunk of change to your LLM supplier of choice every month,…

Gatekeeper should be banned. It's my machine, let me use it

You can just click to run the app. Gatekeeper doesn't stop you from running apps.

If you really want to ban Gatekeeper you can. sudo spctl --master-disable

As the saying goes about being careful, measure twice and cut once.

Re: Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Post by IncRnd »

foltik wrote: post #55
ctmnt wrote: post #7

This looks cool enough, but it’s starting to drive me crazy how people are in such a rush to put out their macOS apps they can’t be bothered to get a developer account and run a one line command. It’s not hard. I used to be sympathetic to complaints about not wanting to pay the developer account fee. But when you’re vibe coding, you’re probably paying a good chunk of change to your LLM supplier of choice every month,…

Except it is just another piece of corporate silliness. Why don’t you purchase your own developer account and sign it yourself if you trust it? Or are you saying them paying Apple $100/yr in perpetuity is what will make you trust it?

A signed executable isn't for trusting the app. It's for knowing the provenance of the app. Sure, there are some application checks that happen before listing a store app, but those checks are minimal.

Re: Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Post by fredoliveira »

alsetmusic wrote: post #49

I get that there's a market to put command line preferences in a GUI wrapper, but wasn't HN going to limit posts from new accounts? Oh, it's not in Show HN. They found a loophole. Meanwhile, I'm running Claude Code and asking it to make me stupid bespoke things that only I want and I'm not spamming the internet with those tools because they aren't novel or useful for most people and you can have Claude Code build a v…

> Go away, green accounts. Everyone is pretty tired of your presence.

I get the frustration with the overload of new vibe-coded tools, but this particular attitude towards new people - can we not?

Re: Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Post by jasonvorhe »

ctmnt wrote: post #7

This looks cool enough, but it’s starting to drive me crazy how people are in such a rush to put out their macOS apps they can’t be bothered to get a developer account and run a one line command. It’s not hard. I used to be sympathetic to complaints about not wanting to pay the developer account fee. But when you’re vibe coding, you’re probably paying a good chunk of change to your LLM supplier of choice every month,…

The fewer apps make me depend on proprietary app stores the better. Just make it a homebrew cask and you're good to go. If I were to develop macOS apps (vibed or not, whatever) I wouldn't want to pay Apple either nor jump through KYC and review hoops.

Re: Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Post by [deleted] »

0x3f wrote: post #17
ctmnt wrote: post #7

This looks cool enough, but it’s starting to drive me crazy how people are in such a rush to put out their macOS apps they can’t be bothered to get a developer account and run a one line command. It’s not hard. I used to be sympathetic to complaints about not wanting to pay the developer account fee. But when you’re vibe coding, you’re probably paying a good chunk of change to your LLM supplier of choice every month,…

If you don't want your name, address, phone number on public display you need to either set up a company or set up some forwarding. If you set up a company, you'll need to get a DUNS number. If you haven't done it before and don't know about the secret shortcut way to do that, it is very annoying to get one. Anyway, I don't see a problem with getting it out the door. People can just choose not to install it if they d…

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Re: Ghostmoon.app – A Swiss Army Knife for your macOS menu bar

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Post by whimblepop »

ctmnt wrote: post #7

This looks cool enough, but it’s starting to drive me crazy how people are in such a rush to put out their macOS apps they can’t be bothered to get a developer account and run a one line command. It’s not hard. I used to be sympathetic to complaints about not wanting to pay the developer account fee. But when you’re vibe coding, you’re probably paying a good chunk of change to your LLM supplier of choice every month,…

Perhaps the feeling is (at least sometimes, if not here) mutual. Some free software developers make apps for themselves and don't particularly want users (and least of all non-technical users that they'll be expected to support). They may not be interested in participating in Apple's system of obstructing software installation, especially if they just write their software for themselves.

I've never ended up with undesired software on my system except for under two circumstances: either (a) it's installed by the OS vendor, or (b) some proprietary indie software I used got bought by a shady company who now wants to spy on me and sell my data. Systems like Gatekeeper don't protect against either.

> Also, it’s just such a bad security precedent. This page describes the error you get as “the typical macOS Gatekeeper warning”, as though it were just another piece of corporate silliness, like clicking through a EULA.

It mostly is another piece of corporate silliness. For most people it rarely does something useful. But I agree; if you're courting normie users you should just pony up and get your code signed and notarized. Otherwise just tell people that if they don't already know what Gatekeeper is and understand the risks of bypassing it as well as how to do so, your software isn't for them.

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