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Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Post by Tade0 »

firefoxd wrote: post #33

I think the cult of personality always backfires, pun intended. Our company biggest product was a celebrity making fun commercials for the actual product. Works wonders. Personally I don't have a problem with him, I enjoyed his movies in the past. But not everybody does. Internally, the company tried to push this cult so deeply that it was part of the hiring process, part of the onboarding, even obscured some of the…

The interview for the next job must have been interesting.

Anyway, good for him. Too many agree to too much because they fear they'll lose their job.

Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Post by IncreasePosts »

Drakim wrote: post #61
neversupervised wrote: post #39

There’s no reason a company should put up with enemies within. In rare instances a disgruntled employee might be able to make a positive contribution. In most cases, even if the employee has valid reasons, by the time they are disgruntled there’s no coming back. It’s best for everyone to move on.

Yes, why surround yourself with people who are critical of you, when you can surround yourself with yes-men who will loyally toe the line? Positive contributions comes from loyal subjects who agree with their betters.

That's one way to look at it. Another way is that people who are aligned with the CEOs mission will help achieve the mission, and people who are not aligned will not help achieve the mission. And it's the CEOs job to define the mission

Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Post by denus »

happytoexplain wrote: post #45
breppp wrote: post #34

Is it really surprising she was fired? It's completely okay to say whatever you want and stand up for yourself, but you are not a child, own the consequences rather than whine

"Why are you surprised" is such a common format of weasel-phrase, which is mysterious because it's so plainly fallacious. Just because something is predictable doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Frankly, it's still surprising to see this tip-toeing around given how much the mask has been ripped off recently.

Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Post by robbiewxyz »

breppp wrote: post #34

Is it really surprising she was fired? It's completely okay to say whatever you want and stand up for yourself, but you are not a child, own the consequences rather than whine

Who is surprised by this? Surely you don't imagine a woman who dared to call her boss a rich jerk was surprised when he retaliated! US women are taught very young how powerful men act when their egos are threatened.

As for "the consequences", those are what are at stake now. They are what the courts & to some extent the people of the USA get to decide.

Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Post by [deleted] »

AbbeFaria wrote: post #38
firefoxd wrote: post #33

I think the cult of personality always backfires, pun intended. Our company biggest product was a celebrity making fun commercials for the actual product. Works wonders. Personally I don't have a problem with him, I enjoyed his movies in the past. But not everybody does. Internally, the company tried to push this cult so deeply that it was part of the hiring process, part of the onboarding, even obscured some of the…

I am guessing this is Salesforce and the celebrity is Matthew McConaughey who’s real chummy with Benioff. Brave of the developer to bring it up. This cult of personality is pervasive throughout the tech industry.

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Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Post by jnovek »

jdlshore wrote: post #79
jnovek wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m literally using a flat file to track one of my personal projects right now and I like it more than JIRA.

I’m not a fan of Jira either, but this isn’t a particularly relevant criticism. it’s meant for coordinating large groups.

I was replying to a joke so there was a bit of humor intended there. :-)

Honestly I don’t hate JIRA, it’s “fine”. There aren’t really any project tracking tools that I love.

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Post by nutjob2 »

firefoxd wrote: post #33

I think the cult of personality always backfires, pun intended. Our company biggest product was a celebrity making fun commercials for the actual product. Works wonders. Personally I don't have a problem with him, I enjoyed his movies in the past. But not everybody does. Internally, the company tried to push this cult so deeply that it was part of the hiring process, part of the onboarding, even obscured some of the…

I've been that 20-something myself.

I was working as a programmer at some high flying merchant bank in London in the 90's and at the pub with my workmates one night I started tearing strips off of the IT director because he was comically incompetent. Everyone was kicking me under the table because unbeknownst to me his close friend was at the table taking in my rant. Everyone agreed that I was toast and bought me drinks.

In the morning, at about 10am, security went into his office and marched him out of the building, right past my desk. I turned around and said to my team and said "See! Don't fuck with me!"

It was hilarious.

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