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Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by microtonal »

hbn wrote: post #44
Synaesthesia wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, I always see this pattern with iOS or MacOS releases. Everyone piles on at the time. I've actually quite enjoyed some design changes in Tahoe, and looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned once you're used to them.

Almost every update I'm skeptical at first and then after a while I see a screenshot of the old UI and think "how did I ever use that?" Tahoe I've been using since it came out and every time I see a screenshot of prior versions I think "wow it used to look so much better"

Yeah, there was a post recently about how window chrome changed over the years and the Tahoe era does not make me recognize Apple anymore:

https://pxlnv.com/blog/window-chrome-of-our-discontent/

The usability of older versions was so much better. Tahoe is a huge regression, making everything look like one big drab.

(Though Big Sur already entered the path of monochromatic toolbar icons, etc.)

It’s a shame, because their hardware has improved significantly since Jony Ive left.

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by tomalbrc »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #22
reddalo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Tahoe is disgustingly unusable; I'm happy that Alan Dye left Apple. I hope Apple will backtrack on Liquid Glass after Tahoe. Otherwise, I'll just switch to Linux.

They will likely tweak it but very unlikely that they’ll remove it altogether, especially with the upcoming touch screen MacBook Pro. Companies like Apple typically don’t make reversals quickly (the butterfly keyboard took years to remedy).

Your "upcoming" touch MacBook Pro has been a pipe dream of apple consumers for 2 decades now

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by amelius »

Something to think about for Apple fans:

Why should OS presentation be tightly coupled to kernel version?

Or why should it even be coupled to the vendor of the hardware?

And you can ask the same question about content filters, app stores, ...

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by bestham »

microtonal wrote: post #80
drooopy wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tahoe's UI looks like a generic, "futuristic-like", user-created theme for KDE circa 2009.

The only missing thing are wobbly windows and a cube desktop switcher. (Yes, I know, don’t give them ideas.)

Like the cube user switcher in MacOS?

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by taminka »

amelius wrote: post #84

Something to think about for Apple fans: Why should OS presentation be tightly coupled to kernel version? Or why should it even be coupled to the vendor of the hardware? And you can ask the same question about content filters, app stores, ...

nobody actually likes it, it's just macos is still the least terrible to use option

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by wolvoleo »

neom wrote: post #18

I was really happy when they added the pictures! Dyslexia, the icons are 100% faster for me, I don't use those menus often enough to know what is in there word wise, but I can read the icons super fast.

The problem isn't just the icons but the inconsistency. This link mentioned in the source article illustrates it well: https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/

For a company that used to pride itself on its clean and consistent UI, this is really shoddy work. It feels like Microsoft now, every app designed by a different team and nobody coordinating together.

And this would have been a really minor job to coordinate properly. It probably would have saved time in fact having predefined icons for common functions. Now theres been 8 designers working on a different icon for the same function. It seems just complete disinterest in consistency. "Just do whatever" is not the apple way.

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by LatencyKills »

amelius wrote: post #84

Something to think about for Apple fans: Why should OS presentation be tightly coupled to kernel version? Or why should it even be coupled to the vendor of the hardware? And you can ask the same question about content filters, app stores, ...

Not sure I'd call myself a fan, but I was an engineer on the Xcode team for a decade. The answer to your question about coupling is "ease of testing and coherence".

Prior to Apple, I was a senior engineer on the dev tools team at Microsoft. We did the same exact thing wrt full-release testing and vendor hardware.

I'm not saying I agree with the way either company handles coupling, lock-in, etc. but if you don't think that the Windows UI is coupled to ring-0 you don't understand how it works.

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by isoprophlex »

andy_ppp wrote: post #6

Usually I like Apple’s OS updates but Tahoe is absolutely awful from the glass to the noddy sizing of everything. MacOS does not have to harmonise with VisionOS at all and it’s been a disaster for macOS to try.

I kinda want a new mac because the hardware looks so ... performant. But I can't bear this tahoe glass bullshit, every screenshot I see of it looks terrible. I just don't get what Apple's play is here.
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