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Oil nears $110 a barrel after gas field strike

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Re: Oil nears $110 a barrel after gas field strike

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Post by cyberax »

reillyse wrote: post #61
cyberax wrote: post #3

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A terrible idea, you think the Russians are going to appreciate you killing their leader? A better idea is to try to get Russia to join the EU and use an open market to exert control over the more extreme behaviors and tendencies in Russia. A lot of Russian behavior is based on paranoia (completely justifiable paranoia when you see the way the US is behaving) so perhaps having them in the European fold will chill the…

> A terrible idea, you think the Russians are going to appreciate you killing their leader?

As a Russian? Absolutely yes.

We had a dry run 3 years ago, during Prigozhin's mutiny. He was advancing towards Moscow at freeway speeds, and the population was happily taking pictures. Nobody was organizing barricades, protests, or pro-government rallies.

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Post by baq »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #77
pickleglitch wrote: post #75

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> And if this continues for months this will pushes wind and solar and electrical cars making natural gas and oil much less relevant. Maybe that was the plan. This is one of the most batshit insane things I've ever read. What on Earth would make you think this?

"Trump started the war in Iran to make green energy and EVs more desirable" is an actual conspiracy theory that is going around, although, ya, definitely an unintended consequence.

Given how the previous conspiracy theories turned out we really needed some unconfirmed ones, thanks.

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Post by cyberax »

badpun wrote: post #14
cyberax wrote: post #3

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Putin is not a mad dictator ruling against everyone’s wishes. He’s a leader of a large establishment elite which shares his views and gets very rich. If you replace Putin, most likely outcome is his replacement will not be very different (and probably worse, since the country will be even more anti-Western after the assassination)

Nope. Putin _is_ a mad dictator completely disconnected from the realities of Russia. Just like Maduro in Venezuela. So if he's killed, nobody is going to be bothered by this except a few dozen of his closest allies.

Putin's regime is purely authoritarian ("information autocracy") it has _no_ ideology. Moreover, the government in Russia does everything it can to keep the population passive.

And before you ask, Iran was different because it's _not_ an authoritarian country. It's a full-blown totalitarian theocracy with an official ideology and the elites there actually _believe_ in their doctrine. They have a core of people who will die rather than betray it. And most importantly, they have actual institutions that can survive the death of individuals.

Re: Oil nears $110 a barrel after gas field strike

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Post by cyberax »

WJW wrote: post #16
cyberax wrote: post #3

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You could do this whole plan without needing to do the assassination part, as long as you are willing to throw Ukraine under the bus. Conversely, even if the assassination scheme goes exactly as planned, there is no way of guaranteeing that the new Russian leader would be willing to restart gas deliveries until the war in Ukraine has wrapped up. Given that especially the eastern EU countries have absolutely no intent…

> You could do this whole plan without needing to do the assassination part

Not really. Putin will not deal with Europe honestly.

Re: Oil nears $110 a barrel after gas field strike

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

epsters wrote: post #80

Israeli Defense Minister said earlier today that “Significant surprises are expected today across all arenas that will escalate the war to a new level.” And now they have targeted the world's largest gas field (shared with Qatar). Iranians have said they would retaliate against oil fields and refineries in Israel and the Gulf. But since the majority of US air defenses have been diverted in defense of Israel it looks…

We can't even get Israel out of the Eurovision song contest. Having them face any real consequences is still far away.

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Post by josefritzishere »

josefritzishere wrote: post #65
krior wrote: post #56

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Are you blaming Israel for american troops in Iran? Is the US not a sovreign nation anymore?

This is a valid question, and the answer is unfortunately no. There's a lot to unpack there but basically the president is acting unilaterally and in a manner which advance the interests of foreign nations.

Minus 2? If anyone has an explanation as to how war with Iran is to the benefit if the U.S. I'd genuinely like to hear it.

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Post by orwin »

fla10212 wrote: post #57
krior wrote: post #48

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There is a stark difference between planning something and actually doing it.

The Syria part was quietly executed under Biden, whose administration deserves full credit. "Destabilizing" means fragmenting, I'm not saying that Assad was any good of course.

Syria was in a civil war since 2015. The US (and Israel and Russia) failed to control their intelligence assets on the ground. Sadly we don't have Hillary's emails like for Lybia, so I can't mock France DGSE for loosing their asset, and control over the rebels, within two weeks.

In Syria it might have taken years, but considering the reaction of the US, Israel and Russia to the sudden Syria push, I guarantee the admin in power wasn't informed. What is more likely is that they lost actionable assets during COVID. At best the CIA was aware but didn't inform Mossad not the US, but that would be giving them a lot of credit.

Re: Oil nears $110 a barrel after gas field strike

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Post by dzhiurgis »

ck2 wrote: post #24
OgsyedIE wrote: post #4

It's important to clarify that these are the trading prices at the main oil futures exchange in London. The spot prices in the landing hubs like Gujarat, Odisha and Singapore are significantly higher. If you or your firm handles trucking or mining or tractors or something like buses, stock up on additives where the vast majority of production (like brake fluid, AdBlue (DEF) and gear oil) is Asian now before they get…

various markets, all of them I think https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/

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