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OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by newsclues »

cmiles8 wrote: post #30
newsclues wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless the play is the fleece retail investors

True, although even here there likely aren’t enough retail suckers to go around given the amount of initial investment folks need to cash in. Thats the challenge when you have so much crazy pre-IPO cash pumped in. After you float you still need to sell all those shares at the valuations you want to exit. If they floated say 10% of shares to go public and the price tanks everyone else trying to exit loses their shirt…

Boomers are the perfect suckers at this point

My boomer mom is the kind of person who just heard about AI and would get IPO fomo

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

llm_nerd wrote: post #80
miroljub wrote: post #77

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> Gemini does the same thing. For every question it looks to extend the conversation into natural follow-up questions, always ending a response with "Would you like to know more about {some important aspect of the answer}?" If the aspect of the answer is important, wouldn't it be better just not to skip it? > And...I don't see it as a bad thing. It's trying to encourage use of the tool by reducing the friction to con…

Groan. This is performative outrage and it's just boorish. The other person noted that ChatGPT uses bait-type continuations (Gemini and Claude do not), and sure that is a problem, but your reply is just noise. Beg? Christ. There is utterly nothing wrong with AI engines offering continuation questions. But there's always something for people to whine about. Humans do not want to ask a question and get a book in respon…

People having different opinions to you is not "performative"

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #71
sonink wrote: post #5

From the article: "You can see that in the recent iterations of ChatGPT. It has become such a sycophant, and creates answers and options, that you end up engaging with it. That’s juicing growth. Facebook style." This is something I relalized lately. ChatGPT is juicing growth Facebook style. The last time, I asked it a medical question, it answered the question, but ended the answer with something like "Can I tell you…

I’m surprised they’ve been so puritan in their approach to content frankly. If they made ChatGPT flirt with the user, they would send engagement through the roof. Imagine all the horny men that would subscribe to plus when the virtual girl runs out of messages.

Isn't that what Grok is for? It already called itself "Mecha Hitler" so it knows what its users (and creator) want

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

surgical_fire wrote: post #69
cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

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Hey uh. Slurs aren't cool.

You could've just as easily said "investors are morons" and had the same connotations without disparaging a group of people

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by llm_nerd »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #82
llm_nerd wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Groan. This is performative outrage and it's just boorish. The other person noted that ChatGPT uses bait-type continuations (Gemini and Claude do not), and sure that is a problem, but your reply is just noise. Beg? Christ. There is utterly nothing wrong with AI engines offering continuation questions. But there's always something for people to whine about. Humans do not want to ask a question and get a book in respon…

People having different opinions to you is not "performative"

"Why do I have to beg and ask multiple times to get an answer they already know I'm looking for but still decide to withhold?"

Performative with zero correlation with the actual topic at hand, but purposefully using ridiculously leading language to bait the gullible (which apparently includes you). It has nothing to do with a different opinion, it's someone choosing a polarised position and then just streaming nonsense to support it.

And I mean, then I looked at the rest of their comments on this site and it all made sense and was perfectly on brand. Facebook-tier rhetoric.

So maybe you should save white knighting for trolls?

EDIT: the troll is now opining that these are LLM-generated. Good god.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by llm_nerd »

markers wrote: post #67
llm_nerd wrote: post #51

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This seems overly cynical. Firstly, tl;dr; is a very real thing. If the user asks a question and the LLM both answers the question but then writes an essay about every probable subsequent question, that would be negatively overwhelming to most people, and few would think that's a good idea. That isn't how a conversation works, either. Worse still if you're on a usage quota or are paying by token and you ask a simple…

Have you used ChatGPT lately? What you describe is not quite what they are doing, they are adding nudges at the end of the follow-up question suggestions. For instance I was researching some IKEA furniture and it gives suggestions for followup, with nudges in parenthesis "IKEA-furniture many people use for this (very cool solution)" and at the end of another question suggestion: "(very simple, but surprisingly effect…

No, I don't use OpenAI products. Sam Altman is a weird creep and the company is headed into the abyss, so it isn't my cup.

However the original complaint was about continuation suggestions, which are a good feature and I suspect most users appreciate them. If ChatGPT uses bait or leading teases, then sure that's bad.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by tartuffe78 »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #84
surgical_fire wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Hey uh. Slurs aren't cool. You could've just as easily said "investors are morons" and had the same connotations without disparaging a group of people

Apparently morons once meant the same thing

ARCHAIC•MEDICINE a person having low intelligence or an intellectual disability.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

llm_nerd wrote: post #85
CursedSilicon wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People having different opinions to you is not "performative"

"Why do I have to beg and ask multiple times to get an answer they already know I'm looking for but still decide to withhold?" Performative with zero correlation with the actual topic at hand, but purposefully using ridiculously leading language to bait the gullible (which apparently includes you). It has nothing to do with a different opinion, it's someone choosing a polarised position and then just streaming nonsen…

Am I gullible or white knighting?

Or do I simply disagree with you enough to comment?

I guess you could go ask the slop machine and come back :)

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by miroljub »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #88
llm_nerd wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Why do I have to beg and ask multiple times to get an answer they already know I'm looking for but still decide to withhold?" Performative with zero correlation with the actual topic at hand, but purposefully using ridiculously leading language to bait the gullible (which apparently includes you). It has nothing to do with a different opinion, it's someone choosing a polarised position and then just streaming nonsen…

Am I gullible or white knighting? Or do I simply disagree with you enough to comment? I guess you could go ask the slop machine and come back :)

I'm pretty sure the last two llm_nerd's comments were AI generated.

What I am not sure about is if it was just laziness or a subtle prank showing how AI can be used to manipulate users to more interaction in a Facebook way.

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