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Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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Hello HN! This tool is inspired by Kagi Small Web (recent thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47410542 ). A common concern raised here is that Kagi Small Web currently accepts only blogs, comics and YouTube channels. It does not accept arbitrary small websites. That limitation motivated me to build Wander. Wander is fully decentralised. Anyone can host it on their own website. It consists of just two files:…

> This tool is inspired by Kagi Small Web To me the way Kagi curates its small web directory always feel contradictory to the spirit of independent web publishing because it seems like you have to submit entries through GitHub — a highly centralized platform owned by one of the largest tech companies. kudos to you for figuring out a decentralized solution.

Good point. Would be less irritating if they hosted on codeberg.

Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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I want to like it, but I don't fully understand why one wouldn't just put a bunch of links on a /wander page and maybe randomize the order?

What you are describing sounds a bit like a blogroll, which many of us do indeed maintain. Mine is here, by the way: https://susam.net/roll.html However, Wander is meant to be a bit like StumbleUpon, but without requiring a centralised service that everyone must go through. One limitation of a blogroll is that it does not provide a consistent way to discover recommendations recursively. For example, I might visit you…

OK I think I get it. It's fundamentally more about the streamlined experience. I played a bit with it and it _felt_ special. So my initial reaction might have been reductive.

Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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It would be cool if the javascript were re-written a bit to only use standard long existing javascript features so one didn't have to run a modern corporate browser to use the "wander" functionality. It did not work in my browser even with JS enabled.

Sorry to know it did not work in your browser and thank you for reporting the problem here. If someone is able to reproduce it and share details either here or at https://codeberg.org/susam/wander/issues >, especially which JavaScript features are not working, I would be happy to update the code. I am aware that I have used a number of relatively modern features. For example, I suspect `for ... of` might be one, and…

browserstack might be a good option to test a bunch of browsers and their different versions on real devices.

Never used it personally, but might get some mileage out of the free plan before their time-based usage expires.

https://www.browserstack.com/docs/automate-self-hosted/getti...

Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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So is this web rings all over again?

I kind of want webrings but with federated OIDC. I.e. you can create an account at any of the sites and re-use the login on the others to leave comments/add content. This has to exist in some neat package right?

I feel like activity pub was supposed to / does enable this.

Perhaps someone better informed than I could comment.

Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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I hope platforms like these find a way to attract people outside tech circles. I looked at around a dozen recommended sites and only two of them isn't the personal website of someone who works in tech and writes mostly about tech, which gets boring rather quickly. There is a world of non-tech bloggers writing stuffs about history, culture and nature who would likely never learn about this project simply because they…

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Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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Hello HN! This tool is inspired by Kagi Small Web (recent thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47410542 ). A common concern raised here is that Kagi Small Web currently accepts only blogs, comics and YouTube channels. It does not accept arbitrary small websites. That limitation motivated me to build Wander. Wander is fully decentralised. Anyone can host it on their own website. It consists of just two files:…

This is delightful! I found a bunch of interesting sites in just a few minutes. I appreciate your simple and decentralized approach.

I'm going to set this up on my website as a replacement for my boring blogroll list.

Incidentally, I made something similar (also called Wander!) that uses browser bookmarks as a source of links. It's a browser extension called "Wander your bookmarks" and helps you wander through sites you bookmarked in the past. In addition to jumping you to a random bookmark, you can also filter your bookmarks by keyword and jump from that shortened list. Check it out here: http://kmshiva.com/projects/wander.html .

Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web

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The StumbleUpon comparison is apt but I think what made StumbleUpon work was the social layer: you could see what your friends upvoted, and that created an implicit filter against the pure randomness. Pure random discovery is fun for a session but gets old. Would love to see something like a lightweight trust graph here where a site vouching for other sites carries weight, similar to how Webring worked but with signal about quality rather than just affiliation.
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