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Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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I’m not sure what you’re trying to say? How did these people write PRs before?

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That I know. If I hear “I’ve only used it to clean it up” one more time my head is going to explode.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#82
Wouldn't the sender be the better judge of the accuracy of what they wanted to communicate? If they feel the LLM version more closely matches their intent, then we should accept it.

There are good arguments to get to know someone "mistakes and all", I just don't think this is a particularly good one. No matter how much you (think) you know someone, they probably know them(selves) better.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say? How did these people write PRs before?

There are many possibilities. There are assistive technologies of various levels of quality, there is human assistance, and then there is simply being unable to participate. Chris McCausland says he relies a lot less on others due to AI. It has been quite effective in showing how diversity can influence opinions when he has been on radio programs and offered his perspective. There have been conversations which have s…

That's a recurring thing through Star Trek. Geordi's visor saved a whole civilization once. I'm not actually sure what you're referring to in Discovery despite watching the whole thing.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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post #33

I totally agreed with you. I'm French (nobody is perfect ^^), I'm not so fluent in english and I'm dyslexic, that why I often write my message, then I ask to Claude to translate it in english because i'm feeling I will lose the credibility of my message if there is too much mistake... But you're right, so this message is not translated by LLM :D

If I was French I'd end all my badly-written comments with a little French lesson, and that would make the readers forgive my errors and make me look intelligent and cultured. A beau mentir qui vient de loin, as we say in French. Le lémurien têtu porte des cache-oreilles.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#86

That’s exactly why I’ve refused to use autocomplete on smartphone keyboards from the very beginning. I want to express myself in my own words. In a work context, of course, things are a bit different: I want to move the project forward and not jeopardize my future paychecks. Authenticity tends to take a back seat there. However, I’d be more concerned about inefficiency. Is it really necessary to run every piece of co…

> That’s exactly why I’ve refused to use autocomplete on smartphone keyboards from the very beginning. I want to express myself in my own words.

Autocomplete drives me up the wall. I have what I want to say in mind. I go to write it. There are times when it can replicate what I have in mind word by word. I don't know whether the emotional reaction is caused by feeling robotically predictable or because the words no longer feel like my own.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#87
post #71

I feel the same and I experience less pressure when writing because for the first time it seems being a bit sloppy can be advantageous. The only thing is that my anecdata contradicts it. My AI cleaned up writing seems to fare much better and this seems to be true across all channels. To be clear I do not mean AI generated just AI cleaned , that is spelling, punctuation, grammar mainly, the occasional word order chang…

> spelling, punctuation, grammar mainly, the occasional word order change. All of those you could already achieve with tools before LLMs.

Which grammar tools?

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#88
I tried to say this on another thread, where it got the reception I expected, but I'll say it here too: People say "let me get to know you, mistakes and all" and then downvote me. If you want me to not run my comments through an LLM, stop reacting badly to the delivery.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#89
> When you run your message through an LLM, it will inevitably obscure what you actually wanted to say; we choose words for a reason after all - even if they’re sometimes not the right words.

We may choose words for a reason, but sometimes we choose the wrong words. Sometimes it may be closely spelled words, and you choose the incorrect version. Sometimes it may be because our understanding of the definition of a word is wrong. Either way, it can be problematic when you say one thing when you meant to say something else.

Now I grew up in the olden days. I reach for a dictionary in such cases. On the other hand, I can certainly understand why people would reach for an LLM. LLMs can examine an entire document at once, it will catch errors that you are not familiar with, and it will catch a much larger range of errors. Is it perfect in doing so? Of course not, but it is better than nothing.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#90

I havily use llms for internal communication. I receive docen request per day from colleagues asking me very specific stuff by mail or teams about processes, setups, master data, my particular experiences with approaches, for contacts within our big corp or just general knowledge questions and how I would recommend to tackle certain problems: Setting up conditions in sap, where to find certain info or just send them…

This sounds like a very odd and very lonely job to me. Reading your description I pictured a comically tiny room with only one opening for incoming requests and another one for outgoing responses. Obviously silly, but in an abstract sense maybe not that far from the truth? It also sounds like you were overworked and when you started to use LLMs you've stripped yourself of the chance to work with a colleague.

> Reading your description I pictured a comically tiny room with only one opening for incoming requests and another one for outgoing responses.

I pictured the normal work from home slack experience.

But I suppose your picture and mine might not have been so different.

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