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Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by OCTAGRAM »

konart wrote: post #51
bbminner wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To my surprise, even sophisticated means of traffic masking like amnezia and vxray get disrupted frequently, requiring hopping around self hosted solutions and updating ones setup periodically. That's waaay beyond what most people are capable of. I am fortunate to have some tech worker acquaintance who live next to my family members, otherwise there'd be no way for me to for example guide them through setup and re-co…

I have 3x-ui installed in Netherlands and everything works fine so far. But sure, they are trying their worst to block every channel of data exchange they can.

I would say they are trying to block every public VPN, and if some VPN tried to hide behind CloudFlare's backs thinking that they took all CloudFlare sites as hostages, then whole CloudFlare is nuked, and hostages did not save VPN from blocking.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by iberator »

johnisgood wrote: post #72
iberator wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia is our enemy. Simple as that. It's bizarre to allow those people in the west (everybody suddenly is a refugee which is fake) .

The Russian government or the Russian people?

Russian people who didn't fight against the state with following persecution have no right to be refugees imo

Maybe except gay people etc

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by orbital-decay »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #61
robotnikman wrote: post #54

Maybe its just me, but it feels like there has been a lot less ransomware attacks since the Ukraine/Russia war started as well.

a solid number of propaganda ("marketing") and malware gangs operated out of Ukraine, or other parts of Eastern Europe. the war definitely changed those flows and targets; e.g. they now flood reddit with pro-Ukranian posts. most of Russian agit-prop now flows out of "marketing" contractors in India, Pakistan, or Nigeria.

It's more complicated than that, the entire former soviet union area was (and is) a huge cybercrime outsourcing market. There are tons of little groups specializing on certain things and selling their services to others. Most notorious "Russian" or "Ukrainian" groups are just visible parts of transnational networks, and depend on the services of others in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Baltics etc. In 2022 the supply chain got partially severed for ransomware and CC fraud in particular, however the black market still functions despite the war.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by OCTAGRAM »

Esn024 wrote: post #59
tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

>It's kind of funny because Telegram is used by Russian military to coordinate a lot of things, so they complain a lot about the block. If that's true, then it was really stupid of them to allow things to get to that point. Look at the US -- they had no tolerance for a major social media app (TikTok) to be outside their own control, and they weren't even in a major war at the time. It seems obvious that if you ARE in…

> unable to keep its own top tech talent supportive of their own government

Government did much to turn them away. And with regards to Makh messanger. Patriotic tech talents are supposed to be interested in Elbrus 2000 PC and Aurora mobile OS. Does Makh messenger work on something Russian? No, Makh does not work on anything Russian. So what makes Makh Russian? We don't get it. It's some another Russia that we don't belong to. Our Russia is Elbrus 2000 PC and Aurora mobile OS. And software from Astra group. People behind Elbrus 2000 support orthodoxal christianity, and people behind Astra group are for great Soviet past. They call one of Astra Linux releases "Leningrad". The proper name of what is currently known as "Saint-Petersburg."

Makh is from some commercial group that does not care about our values. Virtually openly violates traditional values. They are from VK group, and VK hosts VKFest, an open air for youth with rotten words, furnication songs, all that stuff.

Our Russia and their Russia don't mix like water and oil.

For military there is another communication network called Свод (Svod, Arch). It was 4 years late to the party, but at least goes in now.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by yeahrightdan »

dang wrote: post #76
iberator wrote: post #63

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Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by lucketone »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #19
tokai wrote: post #14

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If you talk or write with Russians, its quite clear that they don't care. A majority of them are not following any kind of news, and the ones that are follow pro government stuff. Even though telegram was banned, the majority of all Russian channels are pro-government.[0] [0] https://cedarus.io/research/what-do-russians-read

It's hard to get accurate numbers when there can be very real consequences for saying you do care about these things. I'm not saying I know one way or the other, just that it's hard to know what people really think in a situation like this.

A guy in russia makes interviews of people on the street.

https://youtube.com/@1420channel?si=_IlEAa4V1rilJOMb

Some people just say nothing (due to consequenses), some are very imperialist (rural areas have extremely high occurance). Rarer case, openly against government.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by argulane »

wildylion wrote: post #71
bbminner wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To my surprise, even sophisticated means of traffic masking like amnezia and vxray get disrupted frequently, requiring hopping around self hosted solutions and updating ones setup periodically. That's waaay beyond what most people are capable of. I am fortunate to have some tech worker acquaintance who live next to my family members, otherwise there'd be no way for me to for example guide them through setup and re-co…

Try to get a middle hop somewhere at a russian datacenter. Sometimes these have DPI censorship boxes disabled (?) -- I know one that lets me forward simple Wireguard from mobile routers to a EU server with a few SNAT/DNAT rules, even though ordinarily that would get blocked at first sight. (Sadly, it's just Mikrotik gear that can't use any fancy censorship evasion protocols).

If it's arm based mikrotik then you could run containers with fancier protocol wrappers

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by hulitu »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #60
blell wrote: post #56

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The blocking of cloudflare in Spain shows that citizens of “democratic” states have no agency either.

It is different. It’s just not a sensitive issue - you cannot win elections having fixing this as central part of your platform. In authoritarian states you cannot win elections, period.

It is always "different". Are you older than 18 years ? Are you "allowed" to use a computer ? Or is this "different" ?
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