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Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Previous information:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47186677 I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk (twitter.com/secwar) 5 days ago, 1083+ comments

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47189441 Anthropic says it will challenge Pentagon supply chain risk designation in court (reuters.com) 5 days ago, 37+ comments

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

#82
Writing out a thought I had, someone please critique my reasoning here...

What if Anthropic just shrugged, dissolved the company and open-sourced all of the Opus weights? Could this harm OpenAI and advance AI in a reasonable way?

Look I know it's an insane idea. I'm just curious what the most unhinged response to this might be.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not an "implementation detail." Either obeying contract law subjects you to being designated a supply-chain risk, or it does not, and that decision has ramifications outside this "implementation."

Irrelevant. The president holds all the cards, he is above the law and you are a supply chain risk if you ask anything else other than “how high” when you are told to jump. Laws or contracts are things in the past. The most a contract can do is define your limits and obligations, not your rights or privileges,

> The president holds all the cards, he is above the law

This is provably not true. The fastest way for this to become true is to believe it, or at least to parrot it, even in a facetious way.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Since the end of WW2, and especially since the end of the Cold War, Democratic administrations have presided over significantly higher job growth than Republican administrations. https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.c...

this isn't on topic at all

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, they are all morally indefensible. Anthropic had no problems to do business with the current administration until now. Are we to pretend it was all for happy purposes until now?

Yeah how could Anthropic do business with the democratically elected government of the United States?

Let‘s ignore all the bad things they have done since that, including killing two US citizens.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would love to understand in more detail what kind of use cases we’re talking about. The whole point is that the use-case does not matter; either you allow the government to do everything they want, either you don’t.

either you allow a democratically elected government to do everything they want that is legal, or you insert private corporate decision-making into every government decision which is untenable

Sure... So the USA of Trump have just decided to stop themselves and all their military suppliers from using the very best coding tools.

I suppose the USA's frenemies will jump on the occasion and use the incredible opportunity offered to them in a silver platter.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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So, DoD has done what it said it would. And OpenAI has jumped on the opportunity. I'm curious what'll openai signatories on notdivided.org do now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188473 Remain undivided in spirit while grinding for OpenAI?

They'll do nothing. It's really hard to take the morals of these devs seriously when they're already fine working for, and have a history with, some of the most evil companies in current existence.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Anthropic and the military had a contract. The military wanted to change the terms of that contract. Anthropic said no, which is their clearly defined contractual right. They got labeled a supply chain risk. How is this anything other than a shakedown? Does contract law mean anything to this administration?

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

#90

It might be that this admin does not have the capacity to reason about second or third order effects. But given that what would typically be red lines for previous administrations have been brazenly crossed without consequences, why would they bother?

Crossing red lines for previous administrations is clearly a goal at this point.
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