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Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

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Post by ceejayoz »

socalgal2 wrote: post #61
avaer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a nutshell: Google wants your websites to be more easily used by the agents they are putting in the browser and other products. They own the user layer and models, and get to decide if your product will be used. Think search monopoly, except your site doesn't even exist as far as users are concerned, it's only used via an agent, and only if Google allows. The work of implementing this is on you. Google is building…

The Google hate virus is thick here. It seems uncontroversial that users will likely want to use AI to find info for them and do things for them. So either Google provides users with what they want or they go out of business to some other company that provides what users want. https://www.perplexity.ai/comet https://chatgpt.com/atlas/ https://arc.net/max That is not in any way to suggest companies are ok to do bad th…

> Who ever enables that for users best will get the users.

And if it's anything like Uber, that'll be when the enshittification really kicks into gear.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

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Post by adithyassekhar »

echoangle wrote: post #24
qwertox wrote: post #4

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I want my local dm shop to offer me their product info as copyable markdown, ingredient list, and other health related information. This could be a way to automate it.

Why would you want that over a proper API with structured data?

Welcome to a new generation of developers (not by age) who wants unstructured word slop markdown instead of clear jsons. People's brain are turned to a mush because they no longer think in a logical way, that's the LLM's job.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

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Post by est »

BeefySwain wrote: post #3

Can someone explain what the hell is going on here? Do websites want to prevent automated tooling, as indicated by everyone putting everything behind Cloudfare and CAPTCHAs since forever, or do websites want you to be able to automate things? Because I don't see how you can have both. If I'm using Selenium it's a problem, but if I'm using Claude it's fine??

>Can someone explain what the hell is going on here?

Someone at Chromium team is launching rapidly for an promotion

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

moregrist wrote: post #72
avaer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a nutshell: Google wants your websites to be more easily used by the agents they are putting in the browser and other products. They own the user layer and models, and get to decide if your product will be used. Think search monopoly, except your site doesn't even exist as far as users are concerned, it's only used via an agent, and only if Google allows. The work of implementing this is on you. Google is building…

Knowing Google, there’s a good chance it will turn out like AMP [0]: concerning, but only spotty adoption, and ultimately kind of abandoned/irrelevant. It’s the Google way. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages

> It’s the Google way.

Don't forget the all-important last step: abruptly killing the product - no matter how popular or praiseworthy it is (or heck: even profitable!) if unnamed Leadership figures say so; vide: killedbygoogle.com

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Post by bryanlarsen »

sethops1 wrote: post #65
bryanlarsen wrote: post #60

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The parent post is a list of failed technologies. Perhaps XML failed for a bad reason, but fail it did. Web MCP will likely fail for the same reasons as the other listed techs.

If you think XML is a failed technology you haven't stepped foot anywhere near a serious enterprise company.

It's a failed technology for websites.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

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Post by notnullorvoid »

moregrist wrote: post #72
avaer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a nutshell: Google wants your websites to be more easily used by the agents they are putting in the browser and other products. They own the user layer and models, and get to decide if your product will be used. Think search monopoly, except your site doesn't even exist as far as users are concerned, it's only used via an agent, and only if Google allows. The work of implementing this is on you. Google is building…

Knowing Google, there’s a good chance it will turn out like AMP [0]: concerning, but only spotty adoption, and ultimately kind of abandoned/irrelevant. It’s the Google way. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages

Hopefully that's what happens, but it seems like compared to AMP there is more of a joint standardisation effort this time which worries me.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

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Post by drusepth »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #87
sethops1 wrote: post #65

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If you think XML is a failed technology you haven't stepped foot anywhere near a serious enterprise company.

It's a failed technology for websites.

How is it failed? Just compared to, like, the prevalence of HTML?

I've worked in web dev for almost 20 years. Almost every year has had some kind of work with XML.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

candiddevmike wrote: post #48
jauntywundrkind wrote: post #35

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> for WebMCP you have to expose and maintain internal APIs per page Perhaps. I think an API for the session is probably the root concern. Page specific is nice to have. You say it like it's a bad thing. But ideally this also brings clarity & purpose to your own API design too! Ideally there is conjunct purpose! And perhaps shared mechanism! > This opens the site up to abuse/scraping/etc. In general it bothers me that…

But we have OpenAPI at home

OpenAPI is a replacement for web browsing. Mostly for businesses. WebMCP nicely supplements your web browsing.
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