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Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by stevekemp »

chris222 wrote: post #70
KineticLensman wrote: post #46

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Yes. Kryten had definitely been at the pies

Robert has a whole set of youtube channels on electric vehicles and other renewable technology. It’s quite impressive what he does now but I always see Kryten in him, strange. https://youtu.be/TUi03zA4DAM?si=F55U2fbHjGcksHaK

He's done a lot of things, but for my money the "Scrapheap Challenge" show was his best.

(This is a show where two teams are left inside a scrapheap and given a day, or so, to build a contraption/device.)

He was just so enthusiastic about all the teams, and seemed genuinely interested in both the design, the building, and the performance of whatever it was they were being challenged to build.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by benj111 »

afandian wrote: post #18
ddellacosta wrote: post #14

As an American, Red Dwarf along with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy created a deep appreciation both for British humor and funny sci-fi in my adolescent self. I now own the box set on DVD and even have a random Red Dwarf novel I got at a yard sale (I forget which one of them wrote it though). RIP Rob! Will be having a vindaloo, lager, and maybe some fish (Fish! Fish! Fish!) later in your honor (EDIT: 100% talking a…

Maybe it was written by: > Grant Naylor is a gestalt entity occupying two bodies, one of which lives in north London, the other in south London. The product of a horribly botched genetic-engineering experiment, which took place in Manchester in the late fifties, they try to eke out two existences with only one mind. They attended the same school and the same university, but, for tax reasons, have completely different…

In my head 1 sold left shoes, the other right shoes...

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by benj111 »

afandian wrote: post #24
ddellacosta wrote: post #21

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Haha I went and actually looked and yep, that's it...no wonder I couldn't remember

Somehow enough fragments of that stayed in my brain since 2004 to google it. My first and last real-life encounter with the word 'gestalt'.

I can't remember why I opened a cupboard door, although I recently came across Cerulean blue in an art shop which after much googling got me to the X files episode that I can't have seen since it first aired. memory is indeed weird

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by benj111 »

nephihaha wrote: post #57
teamonkey wrote: post #51

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The practical effects in the early seasons were truly fantastic. It was never quite the same after they switched to cgi.

I've said elsewhere on the "Babylon 5" discussion that Kubrick's "2001" has aged better in many ways than Hyams' "2010" which came out many years later. In the same vein, CGI has a nasty habit of aging more quickly than practical effects. There is stuff from the nineties which looks worse than the seventies as a result. In the case of "Red Dwarf", the genius was in having the ship be an ugly industrial environment in…

I think the main issue with CGI is that it makes it easy to have big space battles, so everything is.

You see this with TNG v DS9. TNG would have one alien ship in an episode at best. It forces you to write story. Come DS9 and you can have 50 bajillion ships on screen so they write a story to make that happen. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, DS9 and B5 are good shows, but I miss the days when Captain Picard would mull over the implications of the prime directive with a cup of tea.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by benj111 »

stevekemp wrote: post #81
chris222 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Robert has a whole set of youtube channels on electric vehicles and other renewable technology. It’s quite impressive what he does now but I always see Kryten in him, strange. https://youtu.be/TUi03zA4DAM?si=F55U2fbHjGcksHaK

He's done a lot of things, but for my money the "Scrapheap Challenge" show was his best. (This is a show where two teams are left inside a scrapheap and given a day, or so, to build a contraption/device.) He was just so enthusiastic about all the teams, and seemed genuinely interested in both the design, the building, and the performance of whatever it was they were being challenged to build.

Didn't it move to the US as Junkyard wars with Henry Rollins?

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by benj111 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #67
lproven wrote: post #48

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Er. I may be missing something here, but isn't it smoke me a kipper ?

You are. It's Arnold's first attempt at being/becoming Ace. He stumbles over the phrase, and the "old" Ace tells him he was once like him too, and "there's an Ace inside you, too" (Lister/Cat, I can't remember which: "Yeah, so deep he's been buried..." or something to that effect).

Did Ace ever meet Lord Flash Heart? Now that would have been a Comic Relief crossover.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by djmips »

nephihaha wrote: post #33
nullhole wrote: post #12

RIP, thanks for the memories. No sci fi effect has ever given me the same sense of wonder that I got from the shot of the camera slowly travelling over the gigantic ship in the Season 1/2 intro. Btw: @dang : Grant was the co-creator, alongside Doug Naylor, who is still kicking

The intro was actually strangely eerie/bleak. I felt sorry for Lister (I think it is) out there painting the ship. There was kind of a sadness because he had lost pretty much all his friends and you could feel the vastness of space.

Intentional.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by stevekemp »

benj111 wrote: post #85
stevekemp wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's done a lot of things, but for my money the "Scrapheap Challenge" show was his best. (This is a show where two teams are left inside a scrapheap and given a day, or so, to build a contraption/device.) He was just so enthusiastic about all the teams, and seemed genuinely interested in both the design, the building, and the performance of whatever it was they were being challenged to build.

Didn't it move to the US as Junkyard wars with Henry Rollins?

I just searched wikipedia and saw that it did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrapheap_Challenge

But I can't say I've ever heard of that before, or seen any. I used to watch the UK series while having lazy breakfasts every Sunday morning with my then-partner.

That was always a nice treat for us both.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by nephihaha »

nmstoker wrote: post #73
afandian wrote: post #24

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Somehow enough fragments of that stayed in my brain since 2004 to google it. My first and last real-life encounter with the word 'gestalt'.

Memory is such an odd thing: not having thought of it in years, I recalled that Gestalt was a Mac feature to allow it to know its own capabilities: https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Gestalt

I associate gestalt with a form of psychotherapy although I have never encountered anywhere that actually offers gestalt therapy round here!
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