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Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

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> Settlements used to be covered in smog due to coal fires for example. London first tried to ban burning coal within the city in 1306 due to the air quality.

That long ago. Surely that helped identify it as a problem even though the science behind it would have been lacking.

I suppose even then it would have been obvious to anyone traveling outside London that, hmmm, the fog/smog goes away out here. Only in major cities… What could it be?

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Yes, for those under 30 you have no idea how normalized smoking was right thru the 90s. Restaurants reeked of it, bars more so. A ridiculous percent of men smoked. I have memories of being quite young sitting in a relatives lap at a baseball game while they smoked. Or my coach in little league smoking a pipe in the dugout filled with 11 year olds.

Never mind the automobile smoke. (Thankfully we dropped leaded gasoline but) have you ever found yourself following a vintage 1970's-era muscle car or similar down the road today? Wow, that non-catalytically-converted smoke brings back the memories…

I spent two weeks in Caracas in 2000, and was shocked by the amount car exhaust. It probably wasn't excessive, but compared the US city I lived in it was always noticable.

Re: Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

#83
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Consuming fiber daily, e.g. psyllium husk, is another way to lower some types of PFAS from the body, although not all types of PFAS are going to mix into bile to facilitate this excretion. The way this works is that some PFAS dissolves in bile which binds to psyllium which is excreted. Remember, 5g psyllium should be taken with 20 fl oz water, mixed and consumed immediately before it gels. Do not take it two hours be…

> psyllium husk If you can source clean psyllium, the bulk of it comes from India and let's say they have different standards when it comes to lead/pesticides and regulations in general

why use phylllium, it's clear that fiber in general works. plenty of sources for that, and ways to get it.

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That long ago. Surely that helped identify it as a problem even though the science behind it would have been lacking.

I suppose even then it would have been obvious to anyone traveling outside London that, hmmm, the fog/smog goes away out here. Only in major cities… What could it be?

seems likely. but without a scientific method to back their claims it just becomes a 'common sense' thing.

Re: Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

#85

I assume a lot of people 50+ were exposed to a lot more lead and cigarette smoke than younger people.

Yes, for those under 30 you have no idea how normalized smoking was right thru the 90s. Restaurants reeked of it, bars more so. A ridiculous percent of men smoked. I have memories of being quite young sitting in a relatives lap at a baseball game while they smoked. Or my coach in little league smoking a pipe in the dugout filled with 11 year olds.

I distinctly remember one Christmas in the mid-70s where my grandfather and uncles all got these ash trays shaped like a house (when you set your pipe/cigarette/cigar down the smoke coiled out the chimney). Everyone was smoking indoors, despite my grandmother was quite fussy and tidy about pretty much everything.

For that matter, my childhood art classes almost always included making an ashtray.

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Whenever you see a Youtube video from a restaurant kitchen you can almost be sure to see some pans where the teflon has been scrubbed down to the pure metal. Probably not that healthy...

its highly unlikely any restaurant uses teflon coated pans. Most use carbon steel or stainless. Teflon just won't hold up in daily use at a restaurant.

cost is also gonna be a factor. you can get bulk stainless pans in bulk at reasonable prices and they'll last forever

restaurants also love high-heat and that's a no-no for teflon

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#87

I assume a lot of people 50+ were exposed to a lot more lead and cigarette smoke than younger people.

More than people 65+?

> “In younger men and those over 65, the associations were weaker and generally not statistically significant,”

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Some places still allow it in civil aviation too.

The US is one. If you live by a small airport frequented by personal aircraft, you're getting bombarded by lead. Now just imagine living next to a teaching airport that does aerial laps around the neighborhood.

Why the hate on the gens?

Most of this stuff was not widely known. There was no internet, so you only got info from 3 tv channels and a newspaper, magazines and conversation.

Blame it on the corps.

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Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

Teflon is so useful when cooking that I'm going to use it until the moment it gets banned regardless of health impacts.

Honestly it doesn't take too long to learn how to cook properly on other types of pans. I use my cast iron pans for nearly everything. I have stainless steel for the rest. There is nothing I can't do in them.

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Is there any studies quantifying it? It seems to make sense. Wonder if anybody has measured.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8994130/ “In this randomized clinical trial of 285 firefighters, both blood and plasma donations resulted in significantly lower PFAS levels than observation alone. Plasma donation was the most effective intervention, reducing mean serum perfluorooctane sulfonate levels by 2.9 ng/mL compared with a 1.1-ng/mL reduction with blood donation, a significant difference; similar chan…

It means blood tests might qualify, too.
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