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Re: First Website (1992)

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False, it was much more annoying to buy drugs online pre-crypto.

How did people do that before crypto?

Money in mailed in envelopes. Western Union. Prepaid credit cards. Stolen credit cards. Bank transfer to a legitimate business that funnels it to their drug empire.

Re: First Website (1992)

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I've been trying to track down "What's New" for a long long time. If memory serves, there was a daily email titled "What's New on the World Wide Web" - very possibly the source for this monthly summary. It was a fascinating way to experience the early WWW's exponential growth. It started out small, but once it began to grow, you could see it expanding faster and faster practically in real time. At first it only took…

If you remove commercial and edu and gov sites it's still doable today to track NEW unique websites today. There are less and less personal webpages due the instagram and fb etc

I keep track of these on my website, Well Made Web. You may like a visit: https://wmw.thran.uk/

Re: First Website (1992)

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Ugh, memories. I'm so old my first web browser was Mosaic and I think I saw this. I used a provider called Texas MetroNet that served up dial-up PPP connections for $45 a month on a speedy 28.8K baud modem. Days of wonder, I tell ya. New days of wonder seem to be ahead, though. That said, there's about 100X more angst involved these days.

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I'm also curious because I remember that the first time I used the Internet (not internet, as it is nowadays), I had to buy a paper book with categorized links to websites. Connecting... Waiting... It was slow, both because of dial-up kbit/s and ping to websites, and every page felt like you were literally sending a request to another part of the planet. It felt like that was actually happening, and it was very diffe…

There’s a page “Robert’s comments on Tim’s MIT trip” that says: “I hope this does not offend Brewster, but I hope, probably in vain, that the commercialists will stay out of the Web world. Selling information is like selling air and water to me, though of course you need to pay the people who provide the information. Your comment already points out some of the bad side-effects of selling per access, or worse, tariffs…

I wonder which Robert said that.

The problem of viable news business models persists, and micro-payments have been proposed, but I have yet to see a viable implementation. Also, I think paying per news story isn't the right level of granularity. Articles that are less popular also need to be written, and the people that wrote them need food, too.

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In 1993, you could refresh the home page of Netscape (Mosaic) every day and it would mention new sites that had been added. That became unmanageable quickly, which is when two dudes from Stanford started a directory.

The NCSA What's New page! https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/388/21...

Why the Web doesn't have a Scottish Accent

I once asked for funding from a Scottish business angel.

He confided to me that his biggest mistake in life was saying no on a phone call by a certain Tim Berners-Lee, who was looking for someone to help implement a browser for the "World Wide Web".

"Why did you reject him?" I asked. "'World Wide Web' sounded pretentious." said the man who got independently wealthy by selling a company that produced hypertext software (incl. browsers) for technical documentation running on Sun workstations...

...TBL turned to the NCSA team in the U.S. instead, and the rest is history.

Re: First Website (1992)

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The NCSA What's New page! https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/388/21...

I've been trying to track down "What's New" for a long long time. If memory serves, there was a daily email titled "What's New on the World Wide Web" - very possibly the source for this monthly summary. It was a fascinating way to experience the early WWW's exponential growth. It started out small, but once it began to grow, you could see it expanding faster and faster practically in real time. At first it only took…

It would be nice if a "What's new?" could be implemented by the Web protocol, a challenging task in a decentralized network.

New domain registrations would have to be queryable and the result set merged across all domain registrars globally.

That would make (completed) Web crawling easier, esp. of pages not interlinked (yet) with others.

Re: First Website (1992)

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The original NextStep design's simplicity and colour scheme appeals to me.

I hope someone will write a "skin"/theme for Ladybird (whose August alpha release we are keenly awaiting) that looks like that before I'll have to do it myself...

Re: First Website (1992)

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Interesting that ` ` goes back that far, I figured it'd be later.

[1] describes the initial elements of HTML. Almost all were derived from an inofficial SGML folklore tagset with the notable exception of and http URIs.

[1]: https://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/Tags.html

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