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Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Post by verdverm »

n8cpdx wrote: post #75
rocketpastsix wrote: post #44

the damage is already done though. Discord just burned years of goodwill and trust. Im in a few discord communities and while they aren't moving Im not looking to join any more right now because of this whole thing.

Can someone explain to me how Discord got so big in the first place, particularly for non-gaming uses? I saw this coming a mile away when folks started ditching slack for Discord - Slack being problematic because a) it was profit-seeking and would use its leverage over your personal data to seek rent and b) it was antithetical to the open web. Discord has the exact same two issues so was obviously not a solution. Why…

Slack sold out, changed the deal, and threw every small group under the bus. Most of those people ended up on Discord

Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Post by BoredPositron »

dgxyz wrote: post #73
BoredPositron wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Reading mode doesn't work on Safari for me... I get a paragraph and sod all else. So respectfully, do not make assumptions. And if you want someone to read the content, don't surround it with shite.

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Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Post by ronsor »

pram wrote: post #57
harrisoned wrote: post #28

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Same for me, and my account is almost a decade old. I think it depends a lot where are you from and the kind of activity, as i read stories of people being asked to register a number out of nowhere. Many servers requires you to have it tho, due to spam protection. I just don't talk on those.

It’s tragic but I have the “verified” setting turned on my public server because it’s literally impossible to stop a determined spammer with the tools Discord has. They can make new accounts faster than you can ban them, and there’s no like “IP ban” equivalent

Discord bans are IP bans by default, but new IP addresses are cheap. Even phone numbers are cheap for a determined spammer.

Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Post by blackcatsec »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #39
Aurornis wrote: post #25

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> So does this mean Discord is scrapping its new face verification requirement for users, No, they’re outsourcing the verification to an external company. Just not this one. Side note: The verification is only if you want to remove content filters, join adult-themed servers and a couple other features. If you only want to chat with your friends and use voice then no verification is required.

Well, until the upcoming batch of laws goes through classifying discussion of lgbtq people as inherently mature content. This is one half of a two part strategy by the american right to make queer content de facto illegal again without running into first amendment protections. Getting the payment processors banning "mature" content is the other leg of this stool.

Yeah I'm not sure many of the commenters realize that this is the targeted plan. They're already succeeding with over 20 (mostly Republican) states requiring age verification to access pornography.

The whole point of this plan is to then gate LGBTQ content behind the age gates, and then criminalize with extremely harsh penalties if teenagers somehow find a way around the age gates.

It's a slow process that's taking years and is slowly eroding our 1A rights, which is precisely how we've ended up in this mess to begin with. They didn't start with "Let's dissolve the Department of Education"--they started with "No Child Left Behind" and "mandatory testing in public schools".

No doubt they'll also age gate anything around women's health, including birthing and abortion information.

Oh, and every last one of these things will be felonies so they can strip away your right to vote in the process.

I'm sure at some point user-generated pornography like cam sites will also be outlawed.

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Post by jandrese »

AlexandrB wrote: post #14
midtake wrote: post #10

> According to Discord, only a small number of users were part of this test, in which any information submitted could be stored for up to seven days before it would be deleted. Ah yes, we only store it for 7 days. During those 7 days, we pass it to Persona, and who knows how long they keep it!

Discord's previous statement: > "Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation" So now it's not "immediately" but 7 days? I don't know how anyone can trust any statement from these guys.

The way I read that is Discord would delete your data, but they were taking an intentionally hands off approach to the data broker they subcontracted to identify you.

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Post by righthand »

BoredPositron wrote: post #61
dgxyz wrote: post #47

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Good article but the web site gave me eye and ear cancer. Please make it actually readable and don't steal my audio!

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There is more than “unique web design” that cause reading issues with that article. For one the lowercase and as well as arcane keywords and organization. Not mention the autoplay music. I have communicated this to the author and they shrugged it off.

Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Post by bsza »

dcchambers wrote: post #53
rocketpastsix wrote: post #44

the damage is already done though. Discord just burned years of goodwill and trust. Im in a few discord communities and while they aren't moving Im not looking to join any more right now because of this whole thing.

Discord is a cancer on the open internet anyway. Real time chat? Great. But entire communities, forums, and wikis moving behind the locked walled of Discord has been a disaster for information discovery. Don't replace Discord with a similar alternative. Return to open forums and wikis!

I would have agreed 5 years ago, but not this day and age, when AI is raping open source projects and killing platforms like Stack Overflow.

We need a safe space from web crawlers and surveillance, and open forums ain't it. (Neither is Discord, but a sufficiently secure alternative might be.)

Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Post by rocketpastsix »

n8cpdx wrote: post #75
rocketpastsix wrote: post #44

the damage is already done though. Discord just burned years of goodwill and trust. Im in a few discord communities and while they aren't moving Im not looking to join any more right now because of this whole thing.

Can someone explain to me how Discord got so big in the first place, particularly for non-gaming uses? I saw this coming a mile away when folks started ditching slack for Discord - Slack being problematic because a) it was profit-seeking and would use its leverage over your personal data to seek rent and b) it was antithetical to the open web. Discord has the exact same two issues so was obviously not a solution. Why…

As far as I can tell, Discord doesn't delete history so you can join an older discord and scroll back. 99.99% of slacks that are free lose history after some arbitrary timeframe (used to be 10,000 messages, now I think its 90 days). Plus you can connect Discord to your Steam/Playstation/Xbox account, which gamers like.
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