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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

embedding-shape wrote: post #62
petercooper wrote: post #60

“I don’t find their actual search engine very useful at all.” (me in 2009) I'm quoted on here so I thought I should give an update! :-) I still don't think DDG was very useful in 2009. A noble idea, but the quality wasn't there for the searches I did. In the past several years, I've found it to give Google a good run for its money, both through DDG's index getting better and Google's getting worse. I'm delighted they…

Same, I tried DDG a bunch of times over the years, maybe once every 2 years or so, but never got to the point where it felt it could replace Google. Tried Kagi when it launched, and I'm not sure if it was because Google had deteriorated so much at that point, or Kagi was simply better, but I got way better results in Kagi, and still do. Kagi ended up being what I thought DDG was aiming for, but was never able to reac…

I think Kagi is neat/fantastic but I also feel like unless you want extreme customizability, DDG is absolutely amazing and I really love DDG.

I also think that though its name might've hold it back a little bit but its absolutely great right now the way it is. I mean I am trying to remember the google proxy of sorts thing and I remembered it in way longer time than DDG (Mentioning https://www.startpage.com/)

So to me I remember duckduckgo a 1000x times more than startpage. Honestly not that big of a deal when you think about it as well but for what its worth, it was valid concern at the time.

Imagine if I create frogfrogjump as say idk an openrouter alternative and uploaded it as show HN. People would reasonably question its name don't you think.

Though to be fair frogfrogjump is sounding a lil cool when I am thinking about it...

Also an interesting story that I found trying to find the name origin behind DDG which I want to share which I found on wiki page of DDG

"We didn't invest in it because we thought it would beat Google. We invested in it because there is a need for a private search engine. We did it for the Internet anarchists, people that hang out on Reddit and Hacker News." - Fred Wilson, 2012 TechCrunch Disrupt Conference in New York[34] (Wikipedia)

This is pretty cool when one thinks about it and actually made me want to use DDG even more just seeing a mention of someone investing in DDG because they wanted people of hackernews wanting/seeing they might use it.

Although I think that people of HN love both DDG/kagi and I think both are acceptable decisions imho.

Re: Hacker News.love – 22 projects Hacker News didn't love

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Post by jakeydus »

literallyroy wrote: post #80

Weird AI piece. There was a post a few days ago looking at historical sentiment of HN posts; it looks like someone slapped that info into an LLM and asked for a neat website. Just read the “outcome” for Warp: > … and became the most popular modern terminal. Login removed, telemetry made optional — every criticism addressed. Insane

That summary in particular gave me a visceral physical reaction.

Re: Hacker News.love – 22 projects Hacker News didn't love

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

andyhedges wrote: post #38
embedding-shape wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, at least nuance won a tiny battle if so, and I'm happy I could contribute to it.

Nuance!? This is The Internet, we can't be having any of that here.

This reminded me of this song which actually shows the extremism of things in Internet.

Welcome to the Internet - Bo Burnham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU

"Y'know wasn't always like this, not very long ago.. just before your time.. right before the towers fell.. circa 99 this was catalogues, travel blogs a chatroom or two, we set our nights and spent our nights waiting for you."

"It was always the plan to put the world in your head."

"Could I interest you in everything all of the time? Apathy is a tragedy and boredom is a crime. Everything and anything all of the time"

Bo Burnham is amazing. Another (interesting?) song is jefferey bezos song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5w2QwdYik [Bo Burnham: Inside - Jeff Bezos]

Recommend everyone to watch both music if you have the time and the first one for sure.

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Post by danesparza »

embedding-shape wrote: post #62
petercooper wrote: post #60

“I don’t find their actual search engine very useful at all.” (me in 2009) I'm quoted on here so I thought I should give an update! :-) I still don't think DDG was very useful in 2009. A noble idea, but the quality wasn't there for the searches I did. In the past several years, I've found it to give Google a good run for its money, both through DDG's index getting better and Google's getting worse. I'm delighted they…

Same, I tried DDG a bunch of times over the years, maybe once every 2 years or so, but never got to the point where it felt it could replace Google. Tried Kagi when it launched, and I'm not sure if it was because Google had deteriorated so much at that point, or Kagi was simply better, but I got way better results in Kagi, and still do. Kagi ended up being what I thought DDG was aiming for, but was never able to reac…

There is nothing on Google I can't also find on duckduckgo.

Re: Hacker News.love – 22 projects Hacker News didn't love

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Post by hnlmorg »

x______________ wrote: post #58
hnlmorg wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point isn’t that we can’t use generic adverbs. It’s that DDG’s name makes it unrealistic to use their brand as an adverb, which loses them more exposure.

So you're saying we are returning to normalcy without adding a corporate term to our every day language? "I searched the net and found..“

As I’ve said twice already now: DDG is a shitty name for those of us might want to use the company name as a verb.

My comment is no more profound than that.

I’m not making any comment about social norms. And nor am I saying it’s impossible to describe searching for content online without “verbing” the company name.

I’m just saying DDG is hard to use as a verb.

Edit: I did say “adverb” in my previous comment. Obviously I meant “verb”. My painkillers hadn’t kicked in yet so excuse the faux pas there.

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