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Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by bakugo »

poszlem wrote: post #34

Between this, and whatever Claude has been doing lately, like giving the AI the ability to just disconnect if it dislikes your prompt, I really hope more people realize that local LLMs are where it's at.

> I really hope more people realize that local LLMs are where it's at.

Maybe if you have the tens of thousands worth of hardware required to run models like DeepSeek, GLM or Kimi locally. Most people don't, though.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by SilverSlash »

paultendo wrote: post #73

Of course Google can restrict how their API is accessed. But locking paid accounts with no warning, no explanation email, and no functioning support path while continuing to charge $249/month is a different problem entirely. A reasonable enforcement process would have been a warning email, grace period to stop using the tool, then restriction. What an awful way to lose trust, locking out their users but billing them…

Their "API" isn't what's being accessed here. As far as I understand it's using their subscription account oauth token in some third party app that's the issue here.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by alexandre_m »

It should be obvious that these services are operating at a loss. The monthly subscriptions especially, but I’m even skeptical that the linear API pricing is sustainable.

It feels like a classic “drug dealer” model to me. Get everyone hooked with cheap access, then raise prices later. Unless there’s a major breakthrough in the underlying technology, I don’t see how a significant price increase isn’t inevitable once adoption is locked in.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by fastball »

esskay wrote: post #38
fastball wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ISPs still do this. Obviously not with Napster, but they will close your account for piracy.

Depends where you live, in most places they don't bother anymore, in the few that they do a VPN obviously gets around it but it's incredibly unlikely you'd be doing enough to ever be on the radar let alone get caught. That battle was lost long ago.

I believe it is less that they stopped caring, and more that most piracy these days is web streaming, which is much harder to detect than torrenting or similar. AFAIK most major American ISPs are still fairly strict about pirate torrents.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by cupantae »

t-writescode wrote: post #63
bethekind wrote: post #15

This is draconian. > Our investigation specifically confirmed that the use of your credentials within the third-party tool “open claw” for testing purposes constitutes a violation of the Google Terms of Service [1]. This is due to the use of Antigravity servers to power a non-Antigravity product. I must be transparent and inform you that, in accordance with Google’s policy, this situation falls under a zero tolerance…

I [ctrl+f]'d for this comment in the thread linked above, and couldn't find it. May I ask where you saw that?

It’s there. User Jun_Meng.
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