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The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by bradlys »

Dancing is not considered cool. Most young people are too self-conscious about being seen dancing poorly. Even someone who is a professional dancer will be considered looking "lame" because they didn't dance the exact perfect way for the music (to whoever is looking) and so forth. Critique of dance is at all time high thanks to TikTok and other social media. People see the absolute best of the world at their absolute peak for short moments of time and extrapolate that's how you should be dancing at all times if you are going to dance.

Therefore, not cool to dance anymore. Everyone is too self-conscious.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by OneMorePerson »

deaux wrote: post #52
OneMorePerson wrote: post #27

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I've seen this in Asia, there's an employee who basically is standing at a raised spot in the corner and if you take out your phone they shoot a small laser pointer right into the camera, it messes with the video. They can't get it on there all the time but a video where half of it (or more they are surprisingly accurate) is a strobing laser becomes pretty garbage anyways. While they are doing that another employee/b…

> I've seen this in Asia "I've seen this on planet earth" Afghanistan? China? Tonga?

Do you actually think Tonga is in Asia?

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by recursivecaveat »

wink wrote: post #65
hahn-kev wrote: post #59

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I don't think they were scrolling. They were recording, which I think is a very very different thing from doom scrolling addiction. But man that sucks, there should be a phone free zone in the concert.

Which would prevent prevent people from snapping 1-2 pictures per band in a 4h concert, which I would kinda not like. Maybe it would improve the experience enough though, or you'd have to move to the bar area and take your one pic there.

Yeah I don't mind people taking their "I was there" pic. Sometimes I just want something to be in my camera roll to prompt a memory in 5 years. What I don't understand is 200 people all holding their phone up to take the same terrible quality video as each other of an event that will be recorded professionally from every angle anyways. Certainly no way would I ever watch back a 1 hour DJ set if I recorded that on a personal phone.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by wolvesechoes »

dangus wrote: post #72
wolvesechoes wrote: post #69

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> My phone can literally see the stage better than my eyes can Feel sorry for you. Try spending less time in front of the screen.

What I mean is that I’m physically far away in the venue. My vision is far from perfect. My phone has 8x optical zoom. I feel sorry for you, because it is probably challenging to be so judgmental and supercilious.

> I feel sorry for you, because it is probably challenging to be so judgmental and supercilious.

No, it's in my nature, it comes without effort.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

wolvoleo wrote: post #73

I see a big counter movement though. I've been to many parties where phones are prohibited, if you bring one the cameras will be taped off. And anyone taking photos anyway will be approached by security. I really love that. It makes parties carefree again because what happens in the club stays in the club. And the people that most applaud it are GenZ, to my suprise.

I also find that if you’re at the right show there’s very few people who hold their phone up for very long. There’s a reason their banner image is Fred Again hah.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by DaedalusII »

drawfloat wrote: post #60
DaedalusII wrote: post #48

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they have to start pivoting as their core business model of charging a human being ~$30k USD to access a data terminal is dead with AI. now instead of having 10 human agents using 10 human terminals that costs $300k you can have 100 AI agents orchestrated into a single terminal that costs $30k its especially dead because people can begin to develop macros and tools to create alternatives to their system using raw dat…

AI agents trawling the web: famously incredibly low latency, sourcing news before it hits social media, and accurate enough to be able to stake multi million dollar trades on.

not quite: ai agents accessing the terminal which has the accurate data

you don't need to have large human teams reading the terminals anymore. the human headcount required to consume the bloomberg content is shrinking, not the headcount required to create it

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by wolvoleo »

raffael_de wrote: post #79
wolvoleo wrote: post #76

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Absolutely. But the reasoning is the same. A nightclub is where you go to let go. And being confronted with that later is inhibitive. That applies whether you're taking your clothes off or just dance.

as far as I am concerned there should be a strict no-smartphone policy in every café, restaurant, bar, club, cinema, theater, concert etc. that would be amazing. or at least some should do it and i'd only go there.

Well you still need to write down people's contacts etc. A complete ban is impractical and that is even the case for the parties I visit where they are banned. The camera's are taped off but you're free to exchange instagram details etc.

The next morning no way I would remember rollergirl236_berlin lol

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

mellosouls wrote: post #5

A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago: Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events. Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see. Note: this isn'…

I'm a Scottish Country dancer. Our events have actual dancing, though of course in a particular style that requires quite a bit of practice to get comfortable with. There are (often small) groups all over the world. Likewise for many other sorts of social dance, we often have shared events with English Country dance groups, Ceilidh groups, and Contra groups, because all 4 styles are related. "Dance" no longer means much, but it's very often possible to find some form of dance that involves actual movement.

Alternatively, the pit at a metal show is much more than just swaying around.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by raffael_de »

wolvoleo wrote: post #87
raffael_de wrote: post #79

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as far as I am concerned there should be a strict no-smartphone policy in every café, restaurant, bar, club, cinema, theater, concert etc. that would be amazing. or at least some should do it and i'd only go there.

Well you still need to write down people's contacts etc. A complete ban is impractical and that is even the case for the parties I visit where they are banned. The camera's are taped off but you're free to exchange instagram details etc. The next morning no way I would remember rollergirl236_berlin lol

of course, we'd provide a pen and a paper in such a case!
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