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Why is Claude an Electron app?

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Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#81
Here is what worries me the most at the moment: we're in a period of hype, fire all the developers, we have agents, everybody can code now, barrier is not low - it's gone. Great. Roll up a year from now, and we have trillions of lines of code no human wrote. At some point, like a big PR, the agent's driver will just say yes to every change. Nobody now can understand the code easily because nobody wrote it. It works, kinda, but how? Who knows? Roll up another few years and people who were just coding because it's a "job" forget whatever skill they had. I've heard a few times already the phrase "I didn't code in like 10 months, bruh"...

Then what?

Not saying I'm not using AI - because I am. I'm using it in the IDE so I can stay close to every update and understand why it's there, and disagree with it if it shouldn't be there. I'm scared to be distanced from the code I'm supposed to be familiar with. So I use the AI to give me superpowers but not to completely do my job for me.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#83

I don't think anyone on the AI hype train cares about performance, memory usage, or code quality (measured by bugs). Customers will, though.

Judging by the state of most software I use, customers genuinely could not care less about bugs. Software quality is basically never a product differentiator at this point.

I think that's too broad of a blanket statement. Plenty of people including myself choose Apple products in part for their software quality over Windows and Linux. However there are other factors like network effects or massive marketing campaigns, sales team efforts etc that are often far greater.

We just don't know how bad it will get with AI coding though. Do you think the average consumer won't care about software quality when the bank software "loses" a big transition they make? Or when their TV literally stops turning on? People will tolerate shitty software if they have to, when it's minor annoyances, but it makes them unhappy and they won't tolerate big problems for long.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#84
post #71

Because Anthropic has never claimed that code is free? It's pretty easy to argue your point if you pick a strawman as your opponent. They have said that you can be significantly more productive (which seems to be the case for many) and that most of their company primarily uses LLM to write code and no longer write it by hand. They also seems to be doing well w.r.t. competition. There are legitimate complaints to be m…

Point still stands. If you are so much more productive and have some of the most expensive engineers in the world, why not write something decent

Why rewrite if thing exists?

You can use those expensive engineers to build more stuff, not rewrite old stuff

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#85
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, you cant rely on the thing that produced invalid output to validate it's own output. That is fundementally insufficient, despite it potentially catching some errors.

Damn. Guess I'll stop QAing my own work from now.

That is often how software development has been done the past several decades yea...

Not to say that you don't review your own work, but it's good practice for others (or at least one other person) to review it/QA it as well.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#87
This post and this entire thread are HN-sniping to the millionth degree. We have all the classics here:

- AI bad - JavaScript bad - Developers not understanding why Electron has utility because they don't understand the browser as a fourth OS platform - Electron eats my ram oh no posted from my 2gb thinkpad

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why isn't Claude doing QA testing for you?

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, you cant rely on the thing that produced invalid output to validate it's own output. That is fundementally insufficient, despite it potentially catching some errors.

That's why you get Codex to do it. /s

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#90
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, you cant rely on the thing that produced invalid output to validate it's own output. That is fundementally insufficient, despite it potentially catching some errors.

Damn. Guess I'll stop QAing my own work from now.

You're making a false equivalence between a human being with agency and intelligence, and a machine.
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