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Pebble Production: February Update

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Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by jsheard »

drum55 wrote: post #56
cubefox wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Isn't that how color images printed paper works, too? No. When you print a piece of paper some color, e.g. red, it will be completely red. But most e-paper screens will only be 33% red (optimistically) and 66% black. This is because physical pixels usually can't change color themselves, only brightness, so you use three of them, and darken the RGB components, to produce a colored pixel. For displaying white on colo…

That’s not really correct, modern color eink displays actually change color, there’s different pigments inside each cell and others are created visually using dithering. Only the older type are monochrome displays with a color filter behaves like you’re describing. https://www.eink.com/tech/detail/How_it_works

Multi-pigment panels exist but in practice nearly all color e-readers still use the filter-based panels, because they are so much cheaper. There are zero Kindle or Kobo models with the multi-pigment technology.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by rationalist »

bronlund wrote: post #63
micromacrofoot wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok buy one of those then

I have. The main reason though, for me not buying a Pebble, is less about the watch and more about Eric. It seems that his whole modus operandi, is selling out his customers. Pebble hadn't been in this mess in the first place, if it wasn't for him. Going back to him a second time, is just unresponsible in my opinion.

> his whole modus operandi

Are there other examples besides just his Pebble company version 1?

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by cubefox »

drum55 wrote: post #56
cubefox wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Isn't that how color images printed paper works, too? No. When you print a piece of paper some color, e.g. red, it will be completely red. But most e-paper screens will only be 33% red (optimistically) and 66% black. This is because physical pixels usually can't change color themselves, only brightness, so you use three of them, and darken the RGB components, to produce a colored pixel. For displaying white on colo…

That’s not really correct, modern color eink displays actually change color, there’s different pigments inside each cell and others are created visually using dithering. Only the older type are monochrome displays with a color filter behaves like you’re describing. https://www.eink.com/tech/detail/How_it_works

Yeah, E Ink Gallery is the only real exception to the rule with full color support. (The store signage can also change colors, but they don't support color mixing, so there are just three or four colors in total.) Unfortunately, even after 10 years, E Ink Gallery is still far behind colored paper in quality. I think fundamentally their approach to e-paper (electrophoresis displays) is just not suited for full color.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by creinhardt »

I wish someone would take all the Fitness sensors of the Apple Watch, and put it in something with a simple e-ink display like these Pebble devices. I don’t care about apps, I just want a thing that measures my heart rate, notifies me if I get a call or text, has more than a couple days of battery life, and that’s it.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by bronlund »

rationalist wrote: post #82
bronlund wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have. The main reason though, for me not buying a Pebble, is less about the watch and more about Eric. It seems that his whole modus operandi, is selling out his customers. Pebble hadn't been in this mess in the first place, if it wasn't for him. Going back to him a second time, is just unresponsible in my opinion.

> his whole modus operandi Are there other examples besides just his Pebble company version 1?

InPulse, Beeper. He isn’t in this to build something, he is just starting it in order to sell it - as he always does.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by diego_moita »

beratbozkurt0 wrote: post #7

I'm curious, what sets it apart from other watches? The design look nice

You know the proverb: "jack of all trades, master of none"?

For Pebble fans most of other watches sound like that. Pebble, o.t.o.h., is focused on doing well just the essential: always on reflective screen, long battery life, easy to develop, UI based on buttons instead of touch screens, being easy to program to,...

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by p1nkpineapple »

stavros wrote: post #67

I'm really excited about the Index. I don't love that it's disposable, but I really like the UX. I couldn't wait, so I made my own (obviously not a ring, but airtag-sized), and it's amazing. I have it in my pocket, I take it out, speak a little note, and it goes off to my AI assistant for whatever needs doing. That and the AI assistant have really changed how I operate day to day. I'm super excited about the Index, a…

can you give some more detail about the airtag-sized device you made? This is exactly what I've been thinking about doing to test the "idea" of the Index, but haven't figured out how to go about doing it.

(Tried looking on your blog, but ended up instead reading your article about the little ESP8266 clock which convinced me to buy one to play with myself, thanks!)

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by Lutzb »

creinhardt wrote: post #84

I wish someone would take all the Fitness sensors of the Apple Watch, and put it in something with a simple e-ink display like these Pebble devices. I don’t care about apps, I just want a thing that measures my heart rate, notifies me if I get a call or text, has more than a couple days of battery life, and that’s it.

Garmin watches might fit your requirements.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by hobo_mark »

creinhardt wrote: post #84

I wish someone would take all the Fitness sensors of the Apple Watch, and put it in something with a simple e-ink display like these Pebble devices. I don’t care about apps, I just want a thing that measures my heart rate, notifies me if I get a call or text, has more than a couple days of battery life, and that’s it.

My pebble 2 has a heart rate sensor, and the battery still lasts for a week after almost a decade of daily use.
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