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WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by buran77 »

stingraycharles wrote: post #17
lccerina wrote: post #8

Everyone: things suck, better move my stuff on a small home server. The hyper-scaler mafia: NOT ON MY WATCH! The only silver lining is that newer devices will have to scale down memory, so developers will have to ditch memory-sucking frameworks and start to optimize things again.

I’m just afraid that prices of $everything will go up soon and will not come down anymore, like they did after Covid. If it’s temporary I can live with it. I guess this was inevitable with the absolute insane money being poured into AI.

> I’m just afraid that prices of $everything will go up soon and will not come down anymore, like they did after Covid.

That's how inflation works. In this case it seems more narrow though, there's hope the prices will go down. Especially if the AI hype finds a reason to flounder.

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by kasabali »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #7
lpcvoid wrote: post #5

But hey, we get slop videos of the pope doing something funny, that's just as cool as being able to purchase computer hardware, right?

To be fair, heise is a german news site, and the very article is auto-translated by AI from its german counterpart.

Machine translation have become pretty good long before AI hype started.

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by roysting »

b3lvedere wrote: post #32
lccerina wrote: post #8

Everyone: things suck, better move my stuff on a small home server. The hyper-scaler mafia: NOT ON MY WATCH! The only silver lining is that newer devices will have to scale down memory, so developers will have to ditch memory-sucking frameworks and start to optimize things again.

The main thing that the powers that be have always underestimated is the insane creativity the common people have when it comes to wanting things, but being forced to use alternative ways. Not going to say it won't suck, but interesting ways will indeed be found.

You’re going to find what, ways to make hand crafted survival RAM and drives in your backyard chip foundry?

Call me cynical if you like, but I don’t see this optimism that assumes the banal idea that somehow good always wins, when that’s simply not possible and in fact bad-guys have won many times before, it’s just that “dead men tell no tales” and the winners control what you think is reality.

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by lowdude »

lccerina wrote: post #8

Everyone: things suck, better move my stuff on a small home server. The hyper-scaler mafia: NOT ON MY WATCH! The only silver lining is that newer devices will have to scale down memory, so developers will have to ditch memory-sucking frameworks and start to optimize things again.

Unless people notice that they just built lots of useless datacenters and push back towards a mainframe + terminal setup, because ah sorry, modern software just runs much better that way, and you can save money on our inexpensive laptop with subscription model

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by zvqcMMV6Zcr »

post-it wrote: post #14

It'll be fine. The supply chain for these components is inelastic, but that means once manufacturing capacity increases, it'll stay there. We'll see lower prices, especially if there is an AI crash and a mass hardware selloff like some people are predicting.

Server grade hardware (rack blades) is already poor fit for consumer needs and AI dedicated hardware straight up requires external liquid cooling systems. It will be expensive to adopt them.

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by Jach »

cubefox wrote: post #74

I'm confused, that doesn't make sense to me: > They largely come from hyperscalers who want hard drives for their AI data centers, for example to store training data on them. What type of training data? LLMs need relatively little of that. For example, DeepSeek-V3 [1], still a relatively large model: > We pre-train DeepSeek-V3 on 14.8 trillion diverse and high-quality tokens At 2 bytes per token, that's 29.6 terabyte…

You may have answered your own question if they're wanting to train models on video and other media.

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by lazide »

dgxyz wrote: post #70
cube00 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If it’s temporary I can live with it. Given this has been going on for years at this point, the high prices of graphics cards through crypto and now AI, it feels like this is the new normal, forever propped up by the next grift.

I don't think this ideology and investment strategy will survive this grift. There's too much geopolitical instability and investment restructuring for it to work again. Everyone is looking at isolationist policies. I mean mastercard/visa is even seen as a risk outside US now.

Yup, when you can’t trust partners (or even nominal allies), what else is there but isolationism?

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by lazide »

roysting wrote: post #83
b3lvedere wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main thing that the powers that be have always underestimated is the insane creativity the common people have when it comes to wanting things, but being forced to use alternative ways. Not going to say it won't suck, but interesting ways will indeed be found.

You’re going to find what, ways to make hand crafted survival RAM and drives in your backyard chip foundry? Call me cynical if you like, but I don’t see this optimism that assumes the banal idea that somehow good always wins, when that’s simply not possible and in fact bad-guys have won many times before, it’s just that “dead men tell no tales” and the winners control what you think is reality.

One way of putting it, is the winners are ‘the good guys’.
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