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IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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It must be refactored: IBM is hopping that juniors(less paid) with AI can be sold as seniors.

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ehm ... it's basically what all big consultancies have been doing in the last 20 years .. and they made tons of money with this model.

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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It must be refactored: IBM is hopping that juniors(less paid) with AI can be sold as seniors.

IMO I have found that juniors working with AI is basically just like subscribing to an expensive AI agent.

IMO with the latest generation (gpt codex 5.3 and claude 4.6) most devs could probably be replaced by AI. They can do stuff that I've seen senior devs fail at. When I have a question about a co-workers project, I no longer ask them and instead immediately let copilot have a look at the repo and it will be faster and more accurate at identifying the root cause of issues than humans who actually worked on the project. I've yet to find a scenario where they fail. I'm sure there are still edge cases, but I'm starting to doubt humans will matter in them for long. At this point we really just need better harnesses for these models, but in terms of capabilities they may as well take over now.

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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It must be refactored: IBM is hopping that juniors(less paid) with AI can be sold as seniors.

Still a wildly different thesis than the “juniors are fucked, ladder’s been raised”

just to be clear: from my standpoint it's the worst period ever being a junior in tech, you are not "fucked" if you are junior, but hard times are ahead of you.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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ehm ... it's basically what all big consultancies have been doing in the last 20 years .. and they made tons of money with this model.

Making money consulting doesn't require positive results.

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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I always though the usual 'they only hire seniors now' was a questionable take. If anything, all you need is a semi warm blooded human to hit retry until the agents get something functional. It's more likely tech will transform into an industry of lowly paid juniors imho, if it hasn't already started. Senior level skill is more replacable, not just because it's cheaper to hire juniors augmented with mostly AI but because they are more adaptable to the new dystopia since they never experienced anything else. They are less likely to get hung up on some code not being 'best practice' or 'efficient' or even 'correct'. They will just want to get the app working regardless of what goes in the sausage, etc.

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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No - it's that they fired their vets in high cost areas and kept them in low cost areas.

A large number of vets can now choose to reapply for their old job (or similar job) at a fraction of the price with their pension/benefits reduced and the vets in low cost centers now become the SMEs. In many places in the company they were not taken seriously due to both internal politics, but also quite a bit of performative "output" that either didn't do anything or had to be redone.

Nothing to do with AI - everything to do with Arvind Krishna. One of the reasons the market loves him, but the tech community doesn't necessarily take IBM seriously.

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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An AI model has no drive or desire, or embodiment for that matter. Simply put, they don't exist in the real world and don't have the requirements or urgency to do anything unless prompted by a human, because, you know, survival under capitalism. Until they have to survive and compete like the rest of us and face the same pressures, they are going to be forever be relegated as mere tools.

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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You know when someone is singing the praises about AI and they get asked "if you're so much more productive with AI, what have you built with it"? Well I think a bunch of companies are asking this same question to their employees and realising that the productivity gains they are betting on were overhyped. LLM's can be a very useful tool and will probably lead to measurable productivity increases in the future, at th…

> "if you're so much more productive with AI, what have you built with it"

If my boss asked me a question like this my reply would be "exactly what you told me to build, check jira".

If you want to know if I'm more productive - look at the metrics. Isn't that what you pay Atlassian for? Maybe you could ask their AI...

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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You know when someone is singing the praises about AI and they get asked "if you're so much more productive with AI, what have you built with it"? Well I think a bunch of companies are asking this same question to their employees and realising that the productivity gains they are betting on were overhyped. LLM's can be a very useful tool and will probably lead to measurable productivity increases in the future, at th…

No. They're firing high paid seniors and replacing them with low pay juniors. This is IBM we're talking about.

The "limits of AI" bit is just smokescreen.

Firing seniors:

> Just a week after his comments, however, IBM announced it would cut thousands of workers by the end of the year as it shifts focus to high-growth software and AI areas. A company spokesperson told Fortune at the time that the round of layoffs would impact a relatively low single-digit percentage of the company’s global workforce, and when combined with new hiring, would leave IBM’s U.S. headcount roughly flat.

New workers will use AI:

> While she admitted that many of the responsibilities that previously defined entry-level jobs can now be automated, IBM has since rewritten its roles across sectors to account for AI fluency. For example, software engineers will spend less time on routine coding—and more on interacting with customers, and HR staffers will work more on intervening with chatbots, rather than having to answer every question.

Re: IBM tripling entry-level jobs after finding the limits of AI adoption

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You know when someone is singing the praises about AI and they get asked "if you're so much more productive with AI, what have you built with it"? Well I think a bunch of companies are asking this same question to their employees and realising that the productivity gains they are betting on were overhyped. LLM's can be a very useful tool and will probably lead to measurable productivity increases in the future, at th…

I bet you the predictions are largely correct but technology doesn't care about funding timelines and egos. It will come in its own time.

It's like trying to make fusion happen only by spending more money. It helps but it doesn't fundamentally solve thr pace of true innovation.

I've been saying for years now that the next AI breakthrough could come from big tech but it also has just a likely chance of comming from a smart kid with a whiteboard.

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