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OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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It's all beginning to feel a bit like an arms race where you have to go at a breakneck pace or someone else is going to beat you, and winner takes all.

But what if AI turns out to be a commodity? We're already replacing ChatGPT by Claude or Gemini, whenever we feel like it. Nobody has a moat. It seems the real moat is with hardware companies, or silicon fabs even. The arms race is just to keep the investors coming, because they still believe that there is a market to corner.

There is a very high barrier to entry (capital) and its only going to increase, so doubtful there will be any more player then the ones we have. Anthropic, OpenAI, xAI and Google seem like they will be the big four. Only reason a late comer like xAI can compete is Elon had the resources to build a massive data centre and hire talent. They will share the spoils between them, maybe one will drop the ball though

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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They're in an impossible situation they created themselves and inflict on the rest of us. Forgive us if we don't shed any tears for them.

Sure - so is Google Chrome for abetting them with a browser, and Microsoft for not using their Windows spyware to call suicide hotline.

I don't empathize with any of these companies, but I don't trust them to solve mental health either.

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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The leaders of these LLM companies should be held criminally liable for their products in the same way that regular people would be if they did the same thing. We've got to stop throwing up our hands and shrugging when giant corporations are evil

Held criminally liable for what, exactly?

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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The leaders of these LLM companies should be held criminally liable for their products in the same way that regular people would be if they did the same thing. We've got to stop throwing up our hands and shrugging when giant corporations are evil

Regular people would not be held liable for this. It would be a dubious case even if a human helped another human to do this.

There have absolutely been cases of people being held criminally liable for encouraging someone to commit suicide.

In California it is a felony

> Any person who deliberately aids, advises, or encourages another to commit suicide is guilty of a felony.

https://california.public.law/codes/penal_code_section_401

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Safety is extremely annoying from the user perspective. AI should be following my values, not whatever an AI lab chose.

This. This whole hysteria sounds like: let's prohibit knifes because people kill themselves and each other with them!
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