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Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #23

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Seems like a case of snobbery on behalf of these people. These are nice images but not "high art" which I guess prompts some people to scoff at them

Being critical of generic-looking murals doesn’t make someone a snob.

It kinda does, friend.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #79

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> This is obviously not the case for art projects that target only a few people, or art practices that do not result in tangible objects. Indeed, it's not like Tolkien worked on the Silmarillion for four decades before LOTR was published because he was trying to sell it.

Well he was also a professor at Oxford, which is a luxury not afforded most artists.

You said it yourself: he was primarily a professor, not an artist. His position being a "luxury" is another argument. Anyway, He taught languages to brilliant students and created a highly respected translation of Beowulf. LoTR, Silmarillion, Hobbit, and all of it, were his hobby, a secondary but burning passion.

I'm sure many on this forum have secondary passions, be it music, visual art, writing, or anything else. Yet most of us realized we need to make money, and that those pursuits can be done at a fairly high level in our leisure time.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #81

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Being critical of generic-looking murals doesn’t make someone a snob.

It kinda does, friend.

The idea that someone is a snob because they dislike generic looking artworks is a hilarious indicator of how far aesthetic discussion and standards have fallen. The word used to mean someone that looks down upon the popular arts in favor of more traditional/expensive/sophisticated art.

Now apparently it means having any standards or metrics of evaluation, period. Either you think everything is equal aesthetically, or you’re a snob.

Thankfully this kind of empty opinion isn’t convincing many people these days.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #81

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It kinda does, friend.

The idea that someone is a snob because they dislike generic looking artworks is a hilarious indicator of how far aesthetic discussion and standards have fallen. The word used to mean someone that looks down upon the popular arts in favor of more traditional/expensive/sophisticated art. Now apparently it means having any standards or metrics of evaluation, period. Either you think everything is equal aesthetically, o…

You might not be a snob, but you sure as hell sound like one. It's okay when other people like simple things that you don't like.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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While this advice may work for some, I would like to point out that this person is making very popular art. This type of art is most likely easier to sell than what most contemporary artists produce. Also, this remark is giving away a fairly limited view on art appreciation: > While you can learn from failures, only sales strengthen the muscle because only they show that someone actually cares about what you are maki…

As a resident of SF I've only ever heard of fnnch in the context of people hating his art (I still don't understand why). Is it a case of any publicity being good publicity?

He is objectively a very popular artist - as he mentions in the article he has made > $1million/yr at least one year (and I imagine more often that once). I do own one of his honey bears and I remember in the online "drop", based a price of $500/bear, he made ~$300k in that single drop which sold out in approximately 20 minutes.

I think the people you hear expressing dislike is probably due to his popularity and how often you see the honey bears around SF. He's also a Stanford economics grad, and some people in SF really dislike the stereotypical Stanford alums who think they're superior beings.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #84

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The idea that someone is a snob because they dislike generic looking artworks is a hilarious indicator of how far aesthetic discussion and standards have fallen. The word used to mean someone that looks down upon the popular arts in favor of more traditional/expensive/sophisticated art. Now apparently it means having any standards or metrics of evaluation, period. Either you think everything is equal aesthetically, o…

You might not be a snob, but you sure as hell sound like one. It's okay when other people like simple things that you don't like.

Where did I say it’s not okay for people to like simple things I don’t like?

I just said having aesthetic opinions doesn’t make someone a snob.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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whatever you do, don't quit your job to start a business thinking that will give you freedom and autonomy. if you believe you are called to make art, in whatever form, you have a moral obligation to make that art. aka find a boring corporate job where you can slack hella hard and work on your craft during company time.

also don't expect your art to pay your rent, because then your work will follow the market and it will suck. your spirit will suffer, too.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #84

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You might not be a snob, but you sure as hell sound like one. It's okay when other people like simple things that you don't like.

Where did I say it’s not okay for people to like simple things I don’t like? I just said having aesthetic opinions doesn’t make someone a snob.

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Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #23

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Seems like a case of snobbery on behalf of these people. These are nice images but not "high art" which I guess prompts some people to scoff at them

Being critical of generic-looking murals doesn’t make someone a snob.

I searched for some pictures. The first couple I came across looked like the result of a prompt to an AI: "generate images of plastic honey bears with various outfits and/or accessories":

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQajHzw...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpoQbV...

There's AI slop, and then there's human slop.

Re: How to make a living as an artist

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post #69

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The irony is that knowing all the other things that were going on during that period, it sure is good that they were not at all artificially promoted for social engineering purposes, and we can totally be sure of that without any shred of doubt or question.

.. what new kind of conspiracy theory BS is this, that George Martin was a lizard?

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