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Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by RajT88 »

delecti wrote: post #28
johnisgood wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any reasons for this to work on non-vampires? :D

That was my thought as well. At least naively, it seems to follow that regularly donating blood might have health benefits. A typical donation is half a liter, and a person has about 5 liters of blood, so donating should in theory remove about 10% of the crap you've got circulating, right? Edit: You can donate every 2 months, so donating as often as possible would roughly halve the crud every year (0.9^6 ~= 0.53, ign…

2 months for whole blood IIRC. You can do every 2 weeks for platelets, but I am not sure if that removes the crud or not. There's other donations with varying frequency (red, plasma, etc.).

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by jvalencia »

prometheus76 wrote: post #51
jvalencia wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a devout Baptist minister, this is likely about one of two things, avoiding the appearance of evil (gambling, 1 Thess 5:22 - Abstain from every form of evil), and giving up something for the sake of others (gambling addictions within the church, Rom 4:21 - or do anything that causes your brother to stumble). The reality is that most churches recognize that they were too legalistic in the past, and so now address t…

I was under the impression that the injunction against playing cards was because of their proximity to tarot/occult practices. Mormons had the same injunction against playing cards until the 80s, when the teaching was no longer promulgated. Speaking as a former Mormon...

I think that's not wrong. Same principle, different sin... it looks like gambling, or the occult, or...

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by mac3n »

see also Floyd Kemske, "Human Resources: A Corporate Nightmare"

https://archive.org/details/HumanResourcesPdf

> Corporate management is the use of humans as resources. So is vampirism.

>Biomethods, Inc. is a struggling biotechnology company whose venture capital group is growing tired of pumping in new blood every quarter.

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by mlsu »

Love this concrete interpretation. The symbolic one is maybe more interesting:

Vampires:

- Consume the life force of the living to sustain themselves

- Are totally isolated and perverted from any kind of human community

- Have no family, no community ties

- Unable to feel love, warmth, connection with any human

- Must avoid spending time in the virtuous natural world (daylight, sunlight) and must instead be cordoned off indoors or in darkness, they do not live as most natural things do.

- Are kind of fallen/perverted; at one point, they were human, but they failed at being human (for instance: unbaptized, excommunicated, murderous, etc) and so were forced into exile often due to their own choice to live sinfully

Billionaires:

- cannot become a billionaire without thousands/millions of regular non-billionaires siphoning money (== time, == life force) upwards

- when they become a billionaire they are forced to be distanced from their community/family of normal people; middle class people are never "regular friends" with billionaires

- either their normal family/friends are 'bitten/infected' (wealth inheritance) or cut-off

- often are profoundly isolated on a personal level (are they talking to me for my money or for me?)

- often the direct cause of or at least complicit in the destruction of the natural world (i.e. cut off from sunlight; unnatural)

- often must make unethical or immoral choices to catapult themselves to wealth/powers (fallen, sinful)

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by sgt »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #42

> The Suspects Peter Thiel Has anyone tried garlic on him? > Vampires don’t drink blood because young blood contains an elixir. They drink blood because their own blood accumulates factors that accelerate aging, and they need to periodically dilute it. I don't think this makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same blood forever.

Imagine showing up to a meeting with Thiel wearing a huge garlic and onion necklace.

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by 0x4e »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #42

> The Suspects Peter Thiel Has anyone tried garlic on him? > Vampires don’t drink blood because young blood contains an elixir. They drink blood because their own blood accumulates factors that accelerate aging, and they need to periodically dilute it. I don't think this makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same blood forever.

Maybe garlic alludes to the working class.

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by delecti »

u1hcw9nx wrote: post #79
delecti wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was my thought as well. At least naively, it seems to follow that regularly donating blood might have health benefits. A typical donation is half a liter, and a person has about 5 liters of blood, so donating should in theory remove about 10% of the crap you've got circulating, right? Edit: You can donate every 2 months, so donating as often as possible would roughly halve the crud every year (0.9^6 ~= 0.53, ign…

I don't think it's very effective. It's your metabolism that produces that junk with increasing ratio of stuff that you need. If you just remove blood, the ratio of good stuff to bad stuff does not change. Same with kidney filtering if they can't recognize the difference. Blood transfusion from younger person gives you blood with better ratio.

The article includes a citation that explicitly states the opposite. Specifically citation 20 from the section "The Twist" (which is itself all about this idea):

> [20] Mehdipour, M. et al. “Rejuvenation of three germ layers tissues by exchanging old blood plasma with saline-albumin.” Aging 12(10), 8790–8819, 2020. The UC Berkeley team found that diluting old blood plasma with saline and albumin produced rejuvenating effects comparable to young blood — suggesting the mechanism is removing pro-aging factors rather than adding youth factors. This was, at the time of publication, the strongest evidence that old blood is the problem, not that young blood is the solution.

Maybe regularly donating blood would have more negative effects from losing good stuff than positive effects from losing bad stuff, or maybe not. There is evidence that it could be a net positive though.

And even aside from the buildup of crud due to normal aging, environmental crud (nano/microplastics, PFAS, etc) is not produced by the body. It's still not totally settled science whether all of those things have negative effects, but regular blood donation would help clear it out, at least a little.

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by sgt »

solidasparagus wrote: post #31

> Here’s what’s genuinely interesting. That's my current AI detector smell. > He discontinued the blood exchange after data showed “no benefits.” A suspicious person might note that a vampire would say exactly this after the media got too interested. I don't think it's the media (clearly the younger generations are media friendly), it's probably pressure from the older vamps.

Yeah, that does sound pretty AI-ish / marketing-bloggy. It’s not wrong, but it has a few classic “AI vibes”. If you want, I can........oh no!!!!!!

NO CARRIER

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by maerF0x0 »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #42

> The Suspects Peter Thiel Has anyone tried garlic on him? > Vampires don’t drink blood because young blood contains an elixir. They drink blood because their own blood accumulates factors that accelerate aging, and they need to periodically dilute it. I don't think this makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same blood forever.

The replication process makes worse and worse copies over time. Plus the cleanup crew gets confused and weak. Each bit of aging makes the process of keeping you young work less well, and hence you age more + faster.

Re: Why vampires live forever

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Post by ASalazarMX »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #42

> The Suspects Peter Thiel Has anyone tried garlic on him? > Vampires don’t drink blood because young blood contains an elixir. They drink blood because their own blood accumulates factors that accelerate aging, and they need to periodically dilute it. I don't think this makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same blood forever.

Who knew we could coexist with vampires if we give each some kind of dialysis machine? Imagine the kind of cultural works someone with centuries of experience could create. Imagine a vampire historian!
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