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Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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The same author had good things to say about the R1, a device you generally won't see many glowing reviews about. ( https://reorx.com/blog/rabbit-r1-the-upgraded-replacement-fo... ) Maybe it's unfair to judge an author's current opinion by their past opinion - but since the piece is ultimately an opinion based on their own experience I'm going to take it along a giant pile of salt that the author's standards for the…

Hah, I read that as well and made a big "hmmmmmmmmm" sound... The last time I talked to someone about OpenClaw and how it is helping them, they told me it tells them what their calendar has for them today or auto-tweets for them (i.e., non-human spam). The first is as simple as checking your calendar, and the second is blatant spam. Anyone found some good use cases beyond a better interface for AI code assistance?

> how it is helping them

This should be the opening for every post about the various "innovations" in the space.

Preferably with a subsequent line about the manual process that was worth putting the extra effort into prior to the shiny new thing.

I really can imagine a better UX then opening my calendar in one-click and manual scanning.

Another frequent theme is "tell me the weather." One again, Google home (alexa or whatever) handles it while I'm still in bed and let's me go longer without staring at a screen.

The spam use-case is probably the best use-case I've seen, as in it truly saves time for an equal or better result, but that means being cool with being a spammer.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

#83

These are the same people who a few years ago made blogposts about their elaborate Notion (or Roam "Research") setups, and how it catalyzed them to... *checks notes* create blogposts about their elaborate Notion setups!

Midwits love this kind of stuff. Movie critics heap praise on forgettable movies to get their names and quotes on the movie poster. Robert Scoble made an entire career in tech bloviation hyping the current thing and got invited to the coolest parties. LinkedIn is a word salad conveyor belt of this kind of useless nonsense. It's a racket never ends.

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Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

#84

What’s the security situation around OpenClaw today? It was just a week or two ago that there was a ton of concern around its security given how much access you give it.

I don’t think there’s any solution to what SimonW calls the lethal trifecta with it, so I’d say that’s still pretty impossible. I saw on The Verve that they partnered with the company that repeatedly disclosed security vulnerabilities to try to make skills more secure though which is interesting: https://openclaw.ai/blog/virustotal-partnership I’m guessing most of that malware was really obvious, people just weren’t…

Regarding prompt injection: it's possible to reduce the risk dramatically by: 1. Using opus4.6 or gpt5.2 (frontier models, better safety). These models are paranoid. 2. Restrict downstream tool usage and permissions for each agentic use case (programmatically, not as LLM instructions). 3. Avoid adding untrusted content in "user" or "system" channels - only use "tool". Adding tags like "Warning: Untrusted content" can help a bit, but remember command injection techniques ;-) 4. Harden the system according to state of the art security. 5. Test with red teaming mindset.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

#85
post #16

The same author had good things to say about the R1, a device you generally won't see many glowing reviews about. ( https://reorx.com/blog/rabbit-r1-the-upgraded-replacement-fo... ) Maybe it's unfair to judge an author's current opinion by their past opinion - but since the piece is ultimately an opinion based on their own experience I'm going to take it along a giant pile of salt that the author's standards for the…

Hah, I read that as well and made a big "hmmmmmmmmm" sound... The last time I talked to someone about OpenClaw and how it is helping them, they told me it tells them what their calendar has for them today or auto-tweets for them (i.e., non-human spam). The first is as simple as checking your calendar, and the second is blatant spam. Anyone found some good use cases beyond a better interface for AI code assistance?

> Anyone found some good use cases beyond a better interface for AI code assistance?

Yesterday, I saw a demo of a product similar to OpenClaw. It can organize your files and directories and works really great (until it doesn't, of course). But don't worry, you surely have a backup and need to test the restore function anyway. /s

Edit:

So far, I haven’t found a practical use case for this. To become truly useful, it would need access to certain resources or data that I’m not comfortable sharing with it.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

#86

These are the same people who a few years ago made blogposts about their elaborate Notion (or Roam "Research") setups, and how it catalyzed them to... *checks notes* create blogposts about their elaborate Notion setups!

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Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

#88

These are the same people who a few years ago made blogposts about their elaborate Notion (or Roam "Research") setups, and how it catalyzed them to... *checks notes* create blogposts about their elaborate Notion setups!

Don't forget about Obsidian

Both are great tools though.

They (or their devs) are not at fault that some people honestly believe you can't be as productive or consistent without a "thought garden" or whatever.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

#90

These are the same people who a few years ago made blogposts about their elaborate Notion (or Roam "Research") setups, and how it catalyzed them to... *checks notes* create blogposts about their elaborate Notion setups!

I’m working on a product related to “sensemaking”. And I’m using this abstract, academic term on purpose to highlight the emotional experience, rather than “analysis” or “understanding”.

It is a constant lure products and tools have to create the feeling of sensemaking. People want (pejorative) tools that show visualizations or summaries, without thinking about the particular visual/summary artifact is useful, actionable or accurate!

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