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The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by lazide »

saulpw wrote: post #78
decimalenough wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Malaria deaths have fallen by 60% in the last 15 years, saving on the order of 12 million lives. Bill's foundation has donated around $4B to the cause. And yeah, it's got Melinda's name on it, but let's face it, virtually all the money is from Bill/Microsoft.

But much of the motivation for starting a foundation is from Melinda.

It’s almost like it was done… as a team.

Where one side provided all the money, the other side provided the direction.

Both were necessary. Weird huh?

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by wewewedxfgdf »

Lammy wrote: post #26
decimalenough wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The kind of piece of shit who donates basically his entire fortune to charity? And actual charity at that, not Ellison style "Larry Ellison Research Foundation for Prolonging the Life of Larry Ellison and Getting Some Tax Breaks Along the Way".

You don't get that rich in the first place without being a ruthless asshole.

Proof please, not a slogan.

Like, actual facts.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by jcranmer »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #82
Lammy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get that rich in the first place without being a ruthless asshole.

Proof please, not a slogan. Like, actual facts.

I mean, do you have a counterexample?

FWIW, Bill Gates is one of the people I would have pointed to as one of the less disreputable modern billionaires, and finding out that Melinda divorced him over his Epstein connections really soured my opinion of him.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by JuniperMesos »

sobkas wrote: post #51
com2kid wrote: post #40

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They've admitted the US education work was a mistake. They are hardly alone in making that mistake, improving education in the US is hard. Their work to clean water and cure diseases has saved millions of lives. They know what they are good at and they've decided to double down on that.

>They've admitted the US education work was a mistake. They are hardly alone in making that mistake, improving education in the US is hard. It's only hard if you don't want to help anyone and your only goal is to push charter schools(by any other name) by any means necessary. >Their work to clean water and cure diseases has saved millions of lives. They know what they are good at and they've decided to double down on…

> It's only hard if you don't want to help anyone and your only goal is to push charter schools(by any other name) by any means necessary.

Why are charter schools bad? What is the ostensible easy way to improve US education that you know for sure will work?

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by regularization »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #80

It would fit perfectly if Epstein was a Russian agent. - Where did he get his money from? - Who's interests are served by this whole dodgy setup? - The Trump connection. - The Trump Russia connection. Maybe I imagine but it all seems aligned.

His e-mails show him trying and failing to get a Russian visa. Not much of a Russian agent.

Actually the person who was trying to help him was until this week the UK ambassador to the US Peter Mandelson. He had to resign this week due to the emails. He previously spent decades attacking the UK Labour's left like Corbyn and trying to make the party more amenable to the type of people Epstein hung around with.

Odd that this very American American, with heavy Israeli contacts and some UK contacts is claimed to be associated with Russia with little evidence. He's American through and through (or failing that, Israeli aligned).

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by nickstinemates »

analog31 wrote: post #79
soperj wrote: post #68

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Common Core for one.

This is the thing that really baffles me. My kids went through K-12 when Common Core was a thing, and there was a huge backlash about it, so I decided to look it up and to see how it was being used in our school district. A few states published their Common Core guidelines. I looked at one state, and the curriculum goals looked no different than the things that I learned when I was a kid. It seemed completely ordinar…

The way they teach math is stupid

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by colechristensen »

dakiol wrote: post #37
decimalenough wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The kind of piece of shit who donates basically his entire fortune to charity? And actual charity at that, not Ellison style "Larry Ellison Research Foundation for Prolonging the Life of Larry Ellison and Getting Some Tax Breaks Along the Way".

You can be both good and bad. Like, it's not an impossibility.

Earning a tremendous amount of money and then amusing yourself by spending it on "charity" for the rest of your life doesn't make you a good person.

It's just one more method of buying good feelings and trying to buy good will while being in control of large numbers of people.

He wants to feel like he's doing good and using money to give him that feeling.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by protocolture »

Insanity wrote: post #23
pixl97 wrote: post #8

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Turns out Bill is just actually a piece of shit through and through

These binary distinctions (mostly) don't work for people in the real world. It's not a book or movie where people are clearly either good or bad, in reality all people are a mix of both. He's still doing his work on philanthropy which is IMO a good thing. The one counterexample to my point that I'd think of is Hitler. And _technically_ he did do good things for Germany as well, the bad just overwhelmingly outshines t…

>The one counterexample to my point that I'd think of is Hitler. And _technically_ he did do good things for Germany as well, the bad just overwhelmingly outshines the good in this case.

Yeah everyone forgets, he killed Hitler. That was a huge win for Germany. But no one ever gives him the credit.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by mmsimanga »

moralestapia wrote: post #5

Excerpt from one of the related emails (written by JE): "great proposal„ however, it needs to be more around deception alice -bob. communication. virus hacking, battle between defense and infiltration.. computation is already looked at in various fields. camoflauge , mimickry, signal processing, and its non random nature, misinformation. ( the anti- truth - but right answer for the moment ).. computation does not inv…

Reminds me of that academic paper that was generated by a computer, this was before current wave of AI agents. The paper was just word soup but was accepted into a journal. Apologies I don't have link typing on mobile.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by vee-kay »

decimalenough wrote: post #74
soperj wrote: post #67

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You'll have to prove the "an actual charity" at that. It's literally in his name, Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, and Melinda had enough of Bill that she nixed their relationship. Bill and Melinda Gates foundation are also behind Common Core and basically ruined public education in the US. The foundation is a way for Bill to keep doing what he likes without having to pay taxes on it, he's just done a better job of…

Malaria deaths have fallen by 60% in the last 15 years, saving on the order of 12 million lives. Bill's foundation has donated around $4B to the cause. And yeah, it's got Melinda's name on it, but let's face it, virtually all the money is from Bill/Microsoft.

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