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ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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It’s quite obvious that all of these seemingly paranoid about privacy, were not that paranoid after all. For the software builders the conclusion is that we should not store ANY identifiable data.

Exactly.

While trying to degoogling, removing most proprietary software and use sandboxing for everything that's still needed as proprietary, you would often hear that stupid pro-surveillance thesis: "oh, what's wrong in someone trying to show you relevant things in the internet to buy by your interests?".

Maybe now some people would think about it. That giving someone's leverage over youself is a ticking bomb until the actually scary people will use it as an advantage. That's humanity 101.

Same about non-encrypted emails, cloud AI providers, SMS/real-identity based auth and 2fa, telemetry. The industry is full of trash and has to be revived from VC garbage.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

#83

Since there's quite a few people here working at US companies with access to lots of user data, but they may not have decision making capacity, I just thought I'll link the Simple Sabotage Field Manual, out of context and for no reason at all https://www.cia.gov/static/5c875f3ec660e092cf893f60b4a288df/... If some data is shared with an external entity, it likely needs to be included in a few usual disclaimers, with a…

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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the sorry state the software industry is currently in, I’m not surprised that developers would sell their soul in exchange for the peace of mind of being able to pay rent and food. Working for those companies does not make people “do what they can to support racist agendas”.

Is this your way of sharing that you work at X or are open to hurting people in exchange for cash? Also, you can retain your morals and choose a career, it is optional to select where you work as it’s hopefully voluntary.

There's nothing voluntary when your options are homelessness and starvation. The bank won't accept your morals in lieu of money when accepting mortgage repayments.

Thankfully I don't live in the US and I don't work for anything even remotely related to this. I don't know if I would have the fortitude in the current US job market (based on what I read here) to threat the well being of the wife and daughter by taking principled stances.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

#85

Why do all the discussion posts about ICE’s biometric app get taken down? Although they may invite politicing, they are very relevant to HN. e.g [flagged] Target director's Global Entry was revoked after ICE used app to scan her face [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46833871 ]

Digital brownshirts, using moderation tools as weapon to stifle discussion critical of the regime.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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ICE doesn't follow the law. It breaks it. Its main mode of operation is fish-net-style catching brown people on the streets and making them sign voluntary deportation. That allows to bypass any court orders and any requirements of the law (like hearing, lawyer, etc). Edit: to the commenter below: >I care because my children are approaching the workforce and I want their opportunities to open up to them do you really…

I'm a brown immigrant, the process to get into the US legally was long. I trust US institutions to have good intent, but like all institutions they fail at times. The mandate is to remove 25 million illegal migrants. I reject the hostile posture that people are taking based on negatively biased information, which in my view, further reassures me they are acting in Americans' best interest. I care because my children are approaching the workforce and I want their opportunities to open up to them, unlike I've witnessed in the tech industry where unscrupulous businesses have happily replaced American workers with labor that is desperate. You can't convince me that the negative bias toward ICE isn't in large part, funded and astroturfed by elements in the business lobby that don't care about unemployed citizens and residents, and further drafted by those who have jobs so can afford to not care.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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If you’re not awake already, you support what’s happening. Blind, which I realize is a bit of the wild west, is full of racist anti-immigration/pro ICE hatred. Obviously, you can see where users work/worked, and it’s every company you could imagine. The sad reality is that a lot of people will do what they can to support racist agendas, possibly even motivate them to work at certain companies as it feels moralizing t…

With the sorry state the software industry is currently in, I’m not surprised that developers would sell their soul in exchange for the peace of mind of being able to pay rent and food. Working for those companies does not make people “do what they can to support racist agendas”.

There was never shortage of developers who "would sell their soul" for higher salary in conditions where job with slightly lower salary was easily available. I really do not think we have to pretend to our selves that if one of us does it, it is because he/she is poor and the kids would starve.

Also, layers are resining from positions in doj they find unethical. It is not like the jobs for them were easier to find.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this your way of sharing that you work at X or are open to hurting people in exchange for cash? Also, you can retain your morals and choose a career, it is optional to select where you work as it’s hopefully voluntary.

There's nothing voluntary when your options are homelessness and starvation. The bank won't accept your morals in lieu of money when accepting mortgage repayments. Thankfully I don't live in the US and I don't work for anything even remotely related to this. I don't know if I would have the fortitude in the current US job market (based on what I read here) to threat the well being of the wife and daughter by taking p…

You chose the most absolute and extreme predicament possible to cast your “money is money” belief.

You do realize this is what most criminals of the world just so happen to say as well, right?

Where is the line?

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

#90
I love this. All these years I've been a privacy enthusiast lunatic, because ofc no-one has anything to hide. Now ad trackers are being potentially weaponised by the govt, and ofc no-one could have foreseen that. This is absolute gold. Will be patiently waiting for recall install's to start sending screenshots to ice of your private documents and comm's.
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