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OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Apple products at least work deterministically They don't say here is a 1000 $ iphone and there is a 60% chance you can successfully message or call a friend The other 40% well? AGI is right around the corner and can US govt pls give me 1 trillion dollar loan and a bailout?

So far my agents has worked better than Siri and afaik nobody has actually asked for a bailout yet.

Don't worry, it's coming

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

The author is full of shit is what it is. They see a few posts online and extrapolate from that to fit whatever narrative they believe in.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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post #78

people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

Claude/GPT-4 don't have any GPU requirements?

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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> This is exactly what Apple Intelligence should have been... They could have shipped an agentic AI that actually automated your computer instead of summarizing your notifications. Imagine if Siri could genuinely file your taxes, respond to emails, or manage your calendar by actually using your apps, not through some brittle API layer that breaks every update. And this is probably coming, a few years from now. Becaus…

> And this is probably coming, a few years from now. Because remember, Apple doesn't usually invent new products. It takes proven ones and then makes its own much nicer version. Except this doesn't stand up to scrutiny, when you look at Siri. FOURTEEN years and it is still spectacularly useless. I have no idea what Siri is a "much nicer version" of. > Apple can integrate it with hardware and software in a way no othe…

In that list of Apple products that you own, do none of them match the ops comment? You’re saying none of those products are or have been in their time in the market a perfected version of other things?

There are lots of failed products in nearly every company’s portfolio.

AirTags were mentioned elsewhere, but I can think of others too. Perfected might be too fuzzy & subjective a term though.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...Apple doesn't usually invent new products. It takes proven ones and then makes its own much nicer version. While this was true about ten years ago, it's been a while since we've seen this model of software development from Apple succeed in recent years. I'm not at all confident that the Apple that gave us Mac OS 26 is capable of doing this anymore.

Airtags were released in 2021, I'd say that counts, but generally I agree.

I mean they literally just looked at Tile. And they have the benefit of running the platform. Demonstrates time and time again that they engage in anticompetitive behaviour.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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post #78

people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

Claude/GPT-4 don't have any GPU requirements?

No dude, you send text or images and get the same back, it's all cloud.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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this seems obviously true, but at the same time very very wrong. openclaw / moltbot / whatever it's called today is essentially a thought experiment of "what happens if we just ignore all that silly safety stuff"

which obviously apple can't do. only an indie dev launching a project with an obvious copyright violation in the name can get away with that sort of recklessness. it's super fun, but saying apple should do it now is ridiculous. this is where apple should get to eventually, once they figure out all the hard problems that moltbot simply ignores by doing the most dangerous thing possible at every opportunity.

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