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Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

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Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#81

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Welcome to the thread! I trust your expertise, but am a little put off by your flippant tone: > getting to jump the line at the airport is a “material adverse action” This is rhetorical device of framing. I could just as easily say: > Pretending to open an online cupcake shop and pretending to be forced to serve gay people isn’t a “material adverse action” And it would sound equally ridiculous, yet the highest court…

> am a little put off by your flippant tone I love this. You: 1. Declare everyone stop talking until an actual expert can speak and educate us all 2. An Actual Expert™ enters the chat and offers his expert opinion. 3. You decide his opinion is bullshit after all, because it disagrees with what you had in mind, and accuse him of being flippant.

Ha. I love this comment.

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#82
post #50

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I don’t disagree. What will (and is) actually happening is every government everywhere is rushing to get these systems setup ASAP.

But it's still awful. It doesn't matter at this moment that other governments may be doing this. We don't want that for us (and I don't want it for others either).

Ok, but clearly they don’t care?

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#83
post #51

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> Guess who runs borders and immigration, which is the use case for PreCheck and Global Entry? Not ICE? > Guess who has essentially unlimited jurisdictional limits? ICE. ICE thinks that. The courts are disagreeing.

First question - CBP, as noted. Unlimited jurisdictional limits - and the courts will enforce this with whose army? As it were. ICE isn’t allowed to act on citizens either, and yet here we are.

That last part isn't true. Citizens who impede ICE officers in the performance of their duties can be arrested by ICE. That is specifically written into the law, and it's a statute that can be interpreted pretty broadly.

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#84
post #66

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It’s not legal to deport U.S. citizens but they have anyway. A judge in Minnesota has said that ICE has violated around 100 court orders. We are living in a personalist dictatorship. The courts are ignored when their rulings are inconvenient.

This doesn’t even remotely address the question.

The answer to your question is irrelevant. ICE does whatever the dictator tells it to. Legal basis vs. policy basis no longer matters.

The question you asked, as pointed out, is a non sequitor given the reality of what’s going on.

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#85
post #13

Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance.

> Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance.

That is not a reminder, that is just, like, your opinion, man. Many countries with robust safety nets in Europe have far right parties rising in popularity significantly or already in the government/ruling coalition (Italy, Sweden, Germany, etc.).

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to the thread! I trust your expertise, but am a little put off by your flippant tone: > getting to jump the line at the airport is a “material adverse action” This is rhetorical device of framing. I could just as easily say: > Pretending to open an online cupcake shop and pretending to be forced to serve gay people isn’t a “material adverse action” And it would sound equally ridiculous, yet the highest court…

> am a little put off by your flippant tone I love this. You: 1. Declare everyone stop talking until an actual expert can speak and educate us all 2. An Actual Expert™ enters the chat and offers his expert opinion. 3. You decide his opinion is bullshit after all, because it disagrees with what you had in mind, and accuse him of being flippant.

I mean usually an Actual Expert pretends to inform and educate the people he’s interacting with. I didn’t really think he came across as informative or educational.

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#87
post #84

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This doesn’t even remotely address the question.

The answer to your question is irrelevant. ICE does whatever the dictator tells it to. Legal basis vs. policy basis no longer matters. The question you asked, as pointed out, is a non sequitor given the reality of what’s going on.

> The question you asked, as pointed out, is a non sequitor

Not what non sequitur means nor how it’s spelled. And repeating a point in the same comment doesn’t count as pointing it out previously.

To the extent there is non sequitur in this thread, it’s in jumping into a legal discussion halfway to argue the law doesn’t actually matter because you feel like it.

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#88
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The answer to your question is irrelevant. ICE does whatever the dictator tells it to. Legal basis vs. policy basis no longer matters. The question you asked, as pointed out, is a non sequitor given the reality of what’s going on.

> The question you asked, as pointed out, is a non sequitor Not what non sequitur means nor how it’s spelled. And repeating a point in the same comment doesn’t count as pointing it out previously. To the extent there is non sequitur in this thread, it’s in jumping into a legal discussion halfway to argue the law doesn’t actually matter because you feel like it.

Ah. My bad spelling. That is a great, pertinent thing to point out. I did abuse the meaning of non sequitor. I was trying to convey a sense that is lost on you without writing a treatise. The law doesn’t matter because we are living in a personaist dictatorship. Asking for the policy or legal basis of ICE’s actions is pointless and ignores the reality that ICE doesn’t care about this and no authority in the country is willing and/or able to stop their abuses.

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#89
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So that whole not using facial recognition and deleting the data after use wasn't real. How shocking. You wonder why the NRA has such a strong lobby against gun registration. It's for the same reasons. Political abuse of exercising of rights. By the time this makes it through the courts people will have forgotten.

Reminder what they are doing to the brave Americans who refuse to let the secret police operate in secret (we have the Constitutional right to observe them, we don't do secret police in the USA):

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/30/st-peter-police-chi...

Chicago Woman Shot 5 Times By Border Agents Will Testify In Washington Next Week https://blockclubchicago.org/2026/01/29/chicago-woman-shot-5...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBd5qfRe0SY

Thanks go out to tech for enabling these guys.

Re: Court Filings: ICE App Identifies Protesters; Global Entry, PreCheck Get Revoked

#90
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First question - CBP, as noted. Unlimited jurisdictional limits - and the courts will enforce this with whose army? As it were. ICE isn’t allowed to act on citizens either, and yet here we are.

That last part isn't true. Citizens who impede ICE officers in the performance of their duties can be arrested by ICE. That is specifically written into the law, and it's a statute that can be interpreted pretty broadly.

Why do you think that specific sub case that applies to all law enforcement folks, applies to my statement?
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