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Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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> If you connect to a Wi-Fi network that isn't your company's, Teams will simply display the name of that network. So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly

But what if I have a secondary wifi network in my home that says "BigCorpSuperSecureWifi", wouldn't that work? What if that's the name of my phone's hotspot?

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Some of this could be related to laws that necessitate updated location data for emergency calling. Since a common component of Teams is Teams Phone, there can be a compliance gap. I’m sure this isn’t the whole story, but it is likely one facet: https://www.911.gov/issues/legislation-and-policy/kari-s-law...

Surely that means soon everyone will have to wear ankle monitor?

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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The implementation details are sketchy/weak in all sources I can find, but I don't think it's pure (coordinates based) location tracking, but rather a "feature" that will show which WiFi network you're connected to as your Teams status. It's pitched as "what building you're in at the office," which seems like a stretch. It's also kind of unclear whether the blog post is correct that it would show the name of another…

Why not get a portable hotspot and call it "[your work's wifi name]"

If you deleted teams off your phone then hot-spotted from phone?

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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This feels like a much better feature than “they can track your realtime location from the mobile app” as implied in the article? Plus employees will have to opt in? The tracking is still gross, but limited to opt-in on office WiFi seems a lot less dramatic of a headline, especially given the main concern people have is work from home

> Plus employees will have to opt in? If a company policy says you have to opt in, not opting in means you're breaching the policy and might get fired. Entirely legal in at-will employment places, but potentially not in places with better worker protections. Saying that, I just got announcement from my employer they will not be turning it on for now.

Employees need to join a union

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This feels like a much better feature than “they can track your realtime location from the mobile app” as implied in the article? Plus employees will have to opt in? The tracking is still gross, but limited to opt-in on office WiFi seems a lot less dramatic of a headline, especially given the main concern people have is work from home

> Plus employees will have to opt in? I mean, that's not really how "opt-in" works for features that your company owns; you might have to "opt-in" technically but your company will probably make that a little more mandatory. I do agree that the blog post, headline, and HN comments are as usual quite an overreaction, but this feature is pretty gross. It's also weird because the controversy/grossness-to-utility ratio s…

My concern is if the employee is aware, at least let me quit before I’m silently opted into my boss realizing I can get the same work done with less time at the desk from home

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

I was wondering if there was more Microsoft has said/used to say about this feature because it leaves a gap between "connect to your organizations Wi-Fi" and "will show you're connected to Starbucks/Home and what that SSID is".

I followed several articles and the tree I found seems to end with this Neowin article https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-delays-controversial-l... but it doesn't actully clear up the sourcing. I.e. the quote in the article is the same roadmap item, yet the article talks directly to that as if it's the home SSID which will be put into Teams - where is that information in the quote it's describing? I'm not sure if they just didn't source that bit or if it's plain confusion about whether it's really limited to "connecting to your organizations Wi-Fi" which is then being picked up as a hot story.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Any middle management thinking of enabling this technology will make it mandatory. If you blackhole the traffic, that's also reason to fire you.

Do they need a reason anymore? Most US is at-will to work.

All of the US is at-will except Montana.
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