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AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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Weird side question, but any chance you use(d) the same name on Playstation Network?

No, xbox ecosystem with different user name.

That's fair. It would have been a weird reunion anyway.

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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It's puzzling to me that all this theorizing doesn't just look at the actual effects of AI. It's very non-intuitive For example the fact that AI can code as well as Torvalds doesn't displace his economic value. On the contrary he pays for a subscription so he can vibe code! The actual work AI has displaced is stuff like: freelance translation, graphic illustration, 'content writing' (writing seo optimized pages for G…

> AI can code as well as Torvalds

He used it to generate a little visualiser script in python, a language he doesn't know and doesn't care to learn, for a hobby project. It didn't suddenly take over as lead kernel dev.

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…

That you started at around 35 is a salient point, no? What did you do before?

Sold financial products before. Curious why you think my starting age was important?

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…

Is it just me, or does Claude Code's UI design which both prevents copy-pasting large snippets and viewing the code as its generated feel incredibly discomforting?

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…

> I swear when this contract is over I'm opening a mobile food cart. Please keep us posted. I'm thinking of becoming a small time farmer/zoo keeper.

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not but I will keep everyone posted haha

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…

I have read this same comment so many times in various forms. I know many of them are shill accounts/bots, but many are real. I think there are a few things at play that make people feel this way. Even if you're in a CRUD shop with low standards for reliability/scale/performance/efficiency, a person who isn't an experienced engineer could not make the LLM do your job. LLMs have a perfect combination of traits that ca…

So set up e2e tests and make sure it does things you said you wanted. Just like how you use a library or database. Trust, but verify. Only if it breaks do you have to peak under the covers.

Sadly people do not care about redundant and verbose code. If that was a concern, we wouldn't have 100+mb of apps, nor 5mb web app bundles. Multibillion b2b apps shipping a 10mb json file just for searching emojis and no one blinks an eye.

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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post #22

Senior dev here 15 years experience just turned 50 have family blah blah. I've been contracting for the last two years. The org is just starting to use Claude. I've been delegating - well copy pasting - into chatgpt which has to be the laziest way to leverage AI. I've been so successful (meaning haven't had to do anything really except argue with chatgpt when it goes off on some tangent) with this approach that I can…

You'd have to do even less copy-pasting. The switch to some agent that has access to your source code directory speed things up so much, the time spent pays for itself in the first day.

I have access to chatgpt codex since i'm on the premium plan. Seems like the lowest barrier to entry for me (cost, learning curve). I will truly have to give this a go. My neighbor is also a dev and he is flabbergasted that i have not at least integrated it into a side project.

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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I am very tired of seeing every random person's speculation (framed as real insight) on what's going to happen as they try to signify that they are super involved in AI and super on top of it and therefore still worthy of value and importance in the economy.

What would you like to hear from random people?

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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post #56

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Same situation (50 last week, 2 kids) though have been unemployed for a year. Part of me thinks that, rather than taking jobs, AI is actually the only reason a lot of jobs still exist. The rest of tech is dead. Having worked in consulting a while ago, you can kind of feel it when you're approaching the point where you've implemented all the high value stuff for a client and, even though there's stuff you could do, th…

Software will ALWAYS be an attractive VC target. The economics are just too good. The profit margins are just inherently fat as fuck compared to literally anything else. Your main expense is headcount and the incremental cost of your widget is ~$0? It's literally a dream. It's also why so much of AI is targeting software, specifically SAAS. A SaaS company with ~0 headcount driven by AI is basically 100% profit margin…

It’s funny that perfect capitalism (no payroll expenses) means nobody has money to actually buy any of the goods produced by AI.

Re cancer: I wonder how significant is the cost of reading the results vs. the logistics of actually running the test

Re: AI’s impact on engineering jobs may be different than expected

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"Most people who drive cars now couldn’t find the radiator cap if they were paid to, and that’s fine." That's not fine IMO. That is a basic bit of knowledge about a car and if you don't know where the radiator cap is you will eventually have to pay through the nose to someone who does know (and possibly be stranded somewhere). Knowing how to check and fill coolant isn't like knowing how to rebuild a transmission. It'…

I have never cared for decades and now my car doesn't even have a radiator. Seems to have worked out well for me.

What kind of car do you drive that doesn't have one?
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