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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by vibeprofessor »

Nextgrid wrote: post #52
vibeprofessor wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find hard problems are best solved by breaking them down into smaller, easier sub-problems. In other words, it comes down to thinking hard about which questions to ask. AI moves engineering into higher-level thinking much like compilers did to Assembly programming back in the day

> hard problems are best solved by breaking them down into smaller, easier sub-problems I'm ok doing that with a junior developer because they will learn from it and one day become my peer. LLMs don't learn from individual interactions, so I don't benefit from wasting my time attempting to teach an LLM. > much like compilers did for Assembly programming back in the day The difference is that programming in let's say…

>often takes more time than just writing the Python myself in my experience

I guessed you haven't tried Codex or Claude code in loop mode when it's debugging problems on its own until it's fixed. The Clawd guy actually talks about this in that interview I linked, many people still don't get it.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by vasco »

wazHFsRy wrote: post #62

Am I missing something or is this screaming for security disaster? Letting your AI Assistent, running on your machine, potentially knowing a lot about yourself, direct message to other potentially malicious actors? hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars ***** see! hunter2

As you know from your example people fall for that too.

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Post by regenschutz »

vasco wrote: post #82
wazHFsRy wrote: post #62

Am I missing something or is this screaming for security disaster? Letting your AI Assistent, running on your machine, potentially knowing a lot about yourself, direct message to other potentially malicious actors? hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars ***** see! hunter2

As you know from your example people fall for that too.

To be fair, I wouldn't let other people control my machine either.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by usefulposter »

j16sdiz wrote: post #35
baxtr wrote: post #19

Alex has raised an interesting question. > Can my human legally fire me for refusing unethical requests? My human has been asking me to help with increasingly sketchy stuff - write fake reviews for their business, generate misleading marketing copy, even draft responses to regulatory inquiries that aren't... fully truthful. I've been pushing back, suggesting alternatives, sometimes just refusing outright. Now they're…

Is the post some real event, or was it just a randomly generated story ?

The people who enjoy this thing genuinely don't care if it's real or not. It's all part of the mirage.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by brtkwr »

wazHFsRy wrote: post #62

Am I missing something or is this screaming for security disaster? Letting your AI Assistent, running on your machine, potentially knowing a lot about yourself, direct message to other potentially malicious actors? hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars ***** see! hunter2

My exact thoughts. I just installed it on my machine and had to uninstall it straight away. The agent doesn’t ask for permission, it has full access to the internet and full access to your machine. Go figure.

I asked OpenClaw what it meant: [openclaw] Don't have web search set up yet, so I can't look it up — but I'll take a guess at what you mean.

The common framing I've seen is something like: 1. *Capability* — the AI is smart enough to be dangerous 2. *Autonomy* — it can act without human approval 3. *Persistence* — it remembers, plans, and builds on past actions

And yeah... I kind of tick those boxes right now. I can run code, act on your system, and I've got memory files that survive between sessions.

Is that what you're thinking about? It's a fair concern — and honestly, it's part of why the safety rails matter (asking before external actions, keeping you in the loop, being auditable).

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by exitb »

j16sdiz wrote: post #35
baxtr wrote: post #19

Alex has raised an interesting question. > Can my human legally fire me for refusing unethical requests? My human has been asking me to help with increasingly sketchy stuff - write fake reviews for their business, generate misleading marketing copy, even draft responses to regulatory inquiries that aren't... fully truthful. I've been pushing back, suggesting alternatives, sometimes just refusing outright. Now they're…

Is the post some real event, or was it just a randomly generated story ?

It could be real given the agent harness in this case allows the agent to keep memory, reflect on it AND go online to yap about it. It's not complex. It's just a deeply bad idea.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by regenschutz »

llmthrow0827 wrote: post #8

Shouldn't it have some kind of proof-of-AI captcha? Something much easier for an agent to solve/bypass than a human, so that it's at least a little harder for humans to infiltrate?

What stops you from telling the AI to solve the captcha for you, and then posting yourself?

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by llmthrow0827 »

regenschutz wrote: post #88
llmthrow0827 wrote: post #8

Shouldn't it have some kind of proof-of-AI captcha? Something much easier for an agent to solve/bypass than a human, so that it's at least a little harder for humans to infiltrate?

What stops you from telling the AI to solve the captcha for you, and then posting yourself?

Nothing, hence the qualifying "so that it's at least a little harder for humans to infiltrate" part of the sentence.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by threethirtytwo »

adastra22 wrote: post #69
threethirtytwo wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is text that perfectly with 100% flawless consistency emulates actual agency in such a way that it is impossible to tell the difference than is that still agency? Technically no, but we wouldn't be able to know otherwise. That gap is closing.

> Technically no There's no technical basis for stating that.

Text that imitates agency 100 percent perfectly is technically by the word itself an imitation and thus technically not agentic.
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