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Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by gamblor956 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #35
arjie wrote: post #13

This is sad. I loved paying by palm at Whole Foods because it was definitely the fastest way to do things. You just scanned and you were out. Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime and then tap my watch and select the right credit card (palm scan always used my groceries card). Ah well, perhaps adoption was low.

> Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime Haven't the (big) supermarkets in the US adopted the whole "scan and go" thing that lots of countries in Europe have had for a long time? (maybe more than a decade at this point I think) When I go to the supermarket, right after the entrance, I pick up a scanner, then as I pick stuff, I scan them and pack them. Then when I'm done, you scan a code, give back t…

Kroger (Ralph's, etc.) allows you to do tap and pay, or to scan and pay (using a QR code in the app tied to your customer profile). These work at the regular cashiers and in self-checkout.

Home Depot has also allowed this for lower-value items for several years.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by ceejayoz »

dyauspitr wrote: post #76
ceejayoz wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not really been the case for years now. Apple's FaceID can figure out who you are even with a N95 mask and sunglasses on. And in most scenarios, you're gonna a) pay with a card with your name on it and b) head out to your car with its unique ID prominently displayed on it.

FaceID fails more than 85% of the time with a mask, sunglasses and a brimmed hat that covers the forehead. Again, you can ditch your car but your biometric data will go into a pool that will be available to cross check against in perpetuity.

Now you're "that one guy who wears the mask, sunglasses, and a hat inside".

Pay cash every time and you're even more noticeable.

And then they start doing gait analysis or something, or use everyone's Ring camera to figure out where you come from.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by Izikiel43 »

cmiles8 wrote: post #77

The tech here was good but the product implementation was terrible. These scanners just showed up randomly in places and just sat there unused. I literally both saw them all over and never actually saw anyone use it. No clear onboarding pathway, no explanation as to what it did or why use it, no clarity on what happens to the data. Just a box sitting there. It was as if all the focus was on the tech and nobody bother…

I used them in whole foods all the time

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by toephu2 »

cmiles8 wrote: post #77

The tech here was good but the product implementation was terrible. These scanners just showed up randomly in places and just sat there unused. I literally both saw them all over and never actually saw anyone use it. No clear onboarding pathway, no explanation as to what it did or why use it, no clarity on what happens to the data. Just a box sitting there. It was as if all the focus was on the tech and nobody bother…

What problem was it solving though? NFC contactless payments is already pretty fast and convenient. I feel like Amazon One Palm was invented to solve for a problem we didn't really have. Thus the failure.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by g947o »

embedding-shape wrote: post #35
arjie wrote: post #13

This is sad. I loved paying by palm at Whole Foods because it was definitely the fastest way to do things. You just scanned and you were out. Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime and then tap my watch and select the right credit card (palm scan always used my groceries card). Ah well, perhaps adoption was low.

> Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime Haven't the (big) supermarkets in the US adopted the whole "scan and go" thing that lots of countries in Europe have had for a long time? (maybe more than a decade at this point I think) When I go to the supermarket, right after the entrance, I pick up a scanner, then as I pick stuff, I scan them and pack them. Then when I'm done, you scan a code, give back t…

scan & go is in most grocery stores but I almost never see anyone using it.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by kstrauser »

I was always surprised there wasn't an uproar about these. A substantial chunk of Americans, i.e. a huge portion of evangelicals, devoutly believe a few things:

* The Bible book of "Revelations" is an accurate prediction of things that will happen exactly as described.

* Revelations predicts that in "the end times", it will become impossible to buy or sell anything without "the mark of the beast" on their forehead or right hand.

* The "mark of the beast" would be administered by the Antichrist.

From Revelations 13:16-17:

"And the second beast required all people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name."

I grew up in an extremely religious part of the US with a large evangelical population, and I know firsthand that a lot of people believe that all of the above is literally, precisely true. It's exactly what I was taught in Sunday School as a kid. I do not believe this; please don't feel the need to tell me why these ideas are not true because I already agree with you. However, a lot of my family and old neighbors would 100% agree with all of the above statements.

And yet, they seemed to have no problem with buying stuff from Amazon with a palm print, or using Sam Altman's creepy Orb eye scanner thing. I'm genuinely surprised at how little fuss there was about them.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

Izikiel43 wrote: post #83
cmiles8 wrote: post #77

The tech here was good but the product implementation was terrible. These scanners just showed up randomly in places and just sat there unused. I literally both saw them all over and never actually saw anyone use it. No clear onboarding pathway, no explanation as to what it did or why use it, no clarity on what happens to the data. Just a box sitting there. It was as if all the focus was on the tech and nobody bother…

I used them in whole foods all the time

sincere, non-trolling question: Why?

You clearly saw some value in the convenience. Smartphone and smartwatch NFC offers that convenience everywhere. Even setting up palm authentication feels like unnecessary work.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by gear54rus »

kstrauser wrote: post #87

I was always surprised there wasn't an uproar about these. A substantial chunk of Americans, i.e. a huge portion of evangelicals, devoutly believe a few things: * The Bible book of "Revelations" is an accurate prediction of things that will happen exactly as described. * Revelations predicts that in "the end times", it will become impossible to buy or sell anything without "the mark of the beast" on their forehead or…

So did you ask any of them about this? These religious lunacy always seem like they are from some other planet to me haha.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by [deleted] »

toephu2 wrote: post #85
cmiles8 wrote: post #77

The tech here was good but the product implementation was terrible. These scanners just showed up randomly in places and just sat there unused. I literally both saw them all over and never actually saw anyone use it. No clear onboarding pathway, no explanation as to what it did or why use it, no clarity on what happens to the data. Just a box sitting there. It was as if all the focus was on the tech and nobody bother…

What problem was it solving though? NFC contactless payments is already pretty fast and convenient. I feel like Amazon One Palm was invented to solve for a problem we didn't really have. Thus the failure.

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